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Old 10 Nov 06, 02:16 PM  
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School achievement concerns

I feel like I need to offload a bit if you don't mind.

Ashley (year 6) attends a specialised speech and language unit and we are currently in the process of formal diagnosis for ASD. As school say maths is his best subject they have put him in the mainstream class for daily maths lessons (where currently he is studying fractions). He brought home two SATs papers yesterday to complete for today . I was not to help him but let him work through them on his own to see what stage he's at. Fine, but the poor lad just looked at me as much as to say 'Mum, I don't know what the hell I've got to do!'. He didn't know what an isoceles triangle is, he didn't know how to measure degrees or how many are in a triangle. He couldn't work out 2 stage sum i.e. 10 candles x 35p + £3.50 (he stopped here) but then you had to deduct 50p for buying 10 candles. He didn't know what to do when asked for factors of 10 and 20. I'm just wondering what school have been teaching him for the last 3 and a bit years if they think this is his best subject and he doesn't know stuff he should know. Its frightening me even more that he's back in mainstream full time next year! Just needed to share my feelings of woe, family don't always understand.
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The SATs papers are designed to test a full range of Yr 6 abilities, so I would not expect your DS to be able to do all the questions on the paper. Level 5 in KS2 is >75% (at least it was the year my DS sat KS2) and the average Yr6 is expected to achieve a 4b which I would guess is around 50%. I know it must be disconcerting for a child to get more wrong than right but its about testing where the child is at and does not mean he or the school is failing if he is not able to answer many questions correctly.

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Old 18 Nov 06, 10:53 PM  
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Maybe the SATs papers are not the best test of your son's abilities. Has he been tested by an educational psychologist to see where his strengths and weaknesses lie and whether there are any specific learning difficulties?
I would certainly ask to speak to his class teacher at school about what you have observed and raise your concerns about his abilities.
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it gets me mad how they judge children by such straight laced tests,my eldest son now 15 and a half, had his life at junior school made a misery by judgemental teachers at his school,he was described as (weired) by his teacher at 6 years old,and this report was put in his personal aheivement file to be witnessed by him twice a year at parents evening.i mean how many children do you know who thought secondary school was ace in year 7 because primary school was so bad.to cut a long story short,i had him tested for dyslexia at a cost of £300, worth every penny,he didnt have it,i was told at the age of 9 that he had the intellect of a 19 year old in some subjects but was 2 years behind in maths.thats when i got off his back and his life improved and i got 100%on his side.it sounds sad i know but when they have your child on an iep and you know its not right its hard.my son takes his gcses in may,im not hoping for the earth,a few c' s would be good,but its not the be all and end all,he's an excellent guitarist,and a thouroughly nice lad,im trying to encourage him to do art,performing arts etc,because the rubbish jobs will always be there.the advice im trying to give is that you know your own child the best,not all children are hugely academic,im not dissing the primary school i have 4 kids in total that are all acheiving to the best of there abilities.just dont be to worried by government tests,there not the be all and end all. best wishes mo.
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Its good stories like yours that keep my hopes for Ashley's future up, that it what I'm concerned about the long term ability for him to cope with life on his own. Just frightened that when he returns to main stream he will be miles behind. Did you see that film over Christmas about the autistic little boy, even with his difficulties the up to date news is he's taking some GCSE's so from barely speaking at 6 years old, he's come a long way.
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hi bartswife,i didnt see the program but im sure they will repeat it soon.another thought ive had is that all through my sons school life i asked if he needed seperate tuition (private) and i would have been prepared to pay for this,i was told (no its not necessary),but it took me a few good years to realise that if they had said yes it would be them admitting failure,i wish i had gone with it now.i think you should always go with your instincts,if you dont things are right for your child speak out.with it being my eldest,i didnt because i probably didnt know any better.i would say if you find your son is significantly behind seek other opinions. all the best mo.
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