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Dollymixture 14 Sep 21 01:38 PM

Voluntary work and mask wearing
 
My husband wants to do some voluntary work as a van driver redistributing food to hostels and the homeless. He applied and was interviewed and offered a start date.
Now the issue is they are insisting that he must wear a mask unless exempt.
He is exempt due to autism and sensory issues.
They have asked for medical proof of this sitting he is exempt.

Contacted GP who said no one needs to show proof of being exempt anymore as itís not law now and to download something off gov website to show company.

Company said no, not enough, need proof and have requested he gives them written permission to access to his medical records directly!

GP said even if he does that, they will not be giving him an access to medical details.

So my question is - can the company actually insist on medical proof of exemption even with the change of rules regarding mask wearing? And how do we get it if the Gp insists they wonít do it as it is not necessary anymore.

tspill 14 Sep 21 01:49 PM

I would imagine that the company can ask as a condition of employment.

They wouldn't want or seek access to medical records. More than likely they would expect a GP's letter. I cant imagine that would be a problem for a GP. It isn't down to the GP to decide what a company wants. Sounds like the GP is digging their heels in to make their point at your OH's expense.

Love*my*hols 14 Sep 21 01:58 PM

I would suggest he goes and volunteers elsewher!

Dollymixture 14 Sep 21 02:08 PM

I should make it clear that itís the receptionists that are saying this - but itís impossible to speak to GP without a receptionist allowing it. So really hit a brick wall!

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Originally Posted by tspill (Post 15135796)
I would imagine that the company can ask as a condition of employment.

They wouldn't want or seek access to medical records. More than likely they would expect a GP's letter. I cant imagine that would be a problem for a GP. It isn't down to the GP to decide what a company wants. Sounds like the GP is digging their heels in to make their point at your OH's expense.


Mr Tom Morrow 14 Sep 21 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Love*my*hols (Post 15135814)
I would suggest he goes and volunteers elsewher!

Exactly. I would tell them I would be highlighting their intransigence to the local Media and that in the interim they could stick their job where the sun donít shine.

I live in Wales where masks are still mandatory. Popped in to a big Tesco this morning and at least 50% of the staff maybe more werenít wearing masks. Please donít tell me they are all exempt!

The World has gone mad.

tspill 14 Sep 21 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollymixture (Post 15135824)
I should make it clear that itís the receptionists that are saying this - but itís impossible to speak to GP without a receptionist allowing it. So really hit a brick wall!

Is there a practice manager you can write to.

123 14 Sep 21 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tspill (Post 15135830)
Is there a practice manager you can write to.

Doesn't really require writing to the practice manager, in this case the receptionist is correct. There is no law in England now requiring mask wearing in the situation described, so the doctor is not required to provide any exemption details.

I suppose you could pay for a private consult to get the outcome the OP wants.

I guess I have two thoughts

1) If the company is being difficult here and asking for more than is legally required I would go volunteer elsewhere

2) Given its a volunteer delivery driver I'm presuming it involves some interaction with the more vulnerabel in society, I would suggest that these would be more comfortable with someone in a mask, so maybe this isn't the right volunteering opportunity for someone not able to wear one

Chilli-pepper 14 Sep 21 03:04 PM

I would imagine that this request will be treated as a private request and the GP would/could charge for this letter.

As masks are no longer a legal requirement there is no need for any exemption letter from a GP- if this is a rule/request of the company it will be treated as no different than a company asking for any other medical exemption letter or medical test/exam or report from a GP for a job, which is chargeable.

tspill 14 Sep 21 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 123 (Post 15135867)
Doesn't really require writing to the practice manager, in this case the receptionist is correct. There is no law in England now requiring mask wearing in the situation described, so the doctor is not required to provide any exemption details.

I suppose you could pay for a private consult to get the outcome the OP wants.

I guess I have two thoughts

1) If the company is being difficult here and asking for more than is legally required I would go volunteer elsewhere

2) Given its a volunteer delivery driver I'm presuming it involves some interaction with the more vulnerabel in society, I would suggest that these would be more comfortable with someone in a mask, so maybe this isn't the right volunteering opportunity for someone not able to wear one

But companies often ask for things that aren't under law. It is nothing to do with the legal position on masks - it is a condition of employment for the job.

This requirement seems totally sensible and reasonable to me. It is also totally reasonable for a GP to help here when asked. They provide letters for all sorts of things. It is part of their service (though they may be a charge). To refuse is totally unacceptable. It is not a receptionist's job to refuse unless they are under specific instructions from the GP.

123 14 Sep 21 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tspill (Post 15135906)
But companies often ask for things that aren't under law. It is nothing to do with the legal position on masks - it is a condition of employment for the job.

This requirement seems totally sensible and reasonable to me. It is also totally reasonable for a GP to help here when asked. They provide letters for all sorts of things. It is part of their service (though they may be a charge). To refuse is totally unacceptable. It is not a receptionist's job to refuse unless they are under specific instructions from the GP.

Fair point


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