[Joosebug1987]

Thanks for the info and the links - will definitely take a read.

I'm half tempted to do west rim this trip and then south next trip to have an excuse if nothing else lol! I liked the sound of doing hoover dam at the same time and i'm hoping my fear of flying lessens over the years...

We had a papillion trip booked on our 2nd trip to Vegas and I woke up in the night terribly ill and feeling really sick - think I'd eaten something... tried to struggle on but by the time we got to the airport and were asked to sign a waiver about the fact they were expecting severe turbulence due to the wind and the helicopter bit may not be an option we ended up cancelling for a full refund - they were great to offer that to be fair! I do remember pulling up and seeing the tiny planes though and thinking oh my god I can't do it lol!x