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Old 27 Mar 20, 07:46 AM  
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On another thread a couple of people have said Cis workers wonít be covered in the self employed help which has me worried.

Hubby is self employed sole trader but sub contracts and through the scheme his contractor takes 20% tax which is paid to hmrc. He then does a usual self assessment each year.

Why would he not be entitled as he is self employed
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Old 27 Mar 20, 08:13 AM  
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Hi My hubby is exactly the same, I absolutely assumed he would be covered in the scheme, can I ask why you would think otherwise? Got me a bit worried now!
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Thereís another thread and I think from what I can gleam people think we may not be covered. Not sure why. Iím worried too as heís self employed has his tax returns and pays his tax so assumed he would be. Sorry to worry you
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I really canít see how they wouldnít be covered?! If anything they probably pay more tax than other self employed. My hubby has contacted his accountant, will update when we get a reply. Does yours have an accountant?
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Exactly! Yes I messaged yesterday but who knows how long before a reply! Iíve also heard to get tax returns ASAP as CIs usually get a rebate and would be good to get money quicker
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Hubby just said most of construction industry are CIS so would rule a lot of them out if that was the case. I wouldnít worry sure they are covered just wouldnít make sense for them not to be? I guess if they werenít that means they would be covered by PAYE instead then which would make less sense! Havenít seen other thread but maybe there wasnít a clear understanding what CIS was?!
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I think CIS workers are included- how could they not. Under the CIS guidance it says

Subcontractors include:

companies, corporate bodies or public bodies, as well as any self-employed individual running a business or partnership

My DH is a self employed plumber working as a CIS sub-contractor and is a self employed person trading as a sole trader doing an annual tax return. The govt said it was for all individuals who's majority of income was self employed and as the CIS contractor does not employ him he sub-contracts him so he should be eligible.
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I read that other thread too. I am sure it was just that some people didnít understand the CIS system thinking it was a form of PAYE. Husband does a mixture of both and the CIS income just goes in to his accounts the same as his private work.
I am planning to do his return straight away so at least I know what his 2019/20 bill will be. I am hoping to still pay his second payment on account in July if we can rather than just delay it. If you expect a refund I would Self Assess straight away after 5 April so at least you get a bit of cash in.

At least this is a step in the right direction and we are not both as worried as we were the other day !
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I havenít read the self employed guidance. But intuitively I cannot see why CIS would be excluded, all it means is that the self employed person has prepaid some taxes.
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CIS will he covered, they are still self employed and submit a tax return. My hubby is self employed and part of his earnings is cis scheme
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