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Unread 22 Sep 16, 01:37 PM  
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I am not sure they could get rid of Salon Mickey completely, they have to give the shareholders some perks, particularly as they have recently increased the number of shares you have to hold in order to get these perks MASSIVELY. It started out as 30 shares, then went to 100 a couple of years ago, and now it has increased to 1,000 shares for new shareholders - shocking! Why anyone would pay that for shares that don't pay out a dividend and could potentially give you no perks is just unimaginable.
They are not interested in small scale investors to be honest. And 1000 shares is still small fry compared to the bigger investors. Those sort of people won't even use SM, they'll have breakfast in their suites in the DLH (if they even visit the resort at all!).

I think some perks will stay yes, but ultimately I think SM will go. I'm not saying next year, but I think it's time is up. Hope I'm wrong though!

I think this is the beginning of the resort changing big style. It's a shame as we like the Paris resort the way it is to some extent. Problem is, bottomline, it ain't making money! WDTC have bailed out, now they want a return.

BTW, I never saw anyone taking things at breakfast, so I can't really comment on this personally, just what some people are saying on other forums. I seem to think it's been reported that it was worse in other hotels though...

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McDonald's, Starbucks and Earl of Sandwich must be celebrating at this news. Assuming there's no change to the breakfast offerings the prices are just ridiculous.

I had a look at some comparisons to the DLH breakfast. An equivalent breakfast in Florida (imo) is 1900 Park fare at the Grand Floridian which is $30 and has characters and a bigger food selection.

The kids prices are particularly insane too, 21 for a 3 year old who will probably eat one plate of food.
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I saw this earlier on a fb group. I think breakfast is still included at the moment but from 13th October it will be changing. Personally I don't usually have breakfast, just take cereal bars then have something in Salon Mickey. The new prices seem very expensive, and the half board prices are going up a lot too. I think at this rate it really won't cost much more to go to WDW.
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McDonald's, Starbucks and Earl of Sandwich must be celebrating at this news. Assuming there's no change to the breakfast offerings the prices are just ridiculous.

I had a look at some comparisons to the DLH breakfast. An equivalent breakfast in Florida (imo) is 1900 Park fare at the Grand Floridian which is $30 and has characters and a bigger food selection.

The kids prices are particularly insane too, 21 for a 3 year old who will probably eat one plate of food.
I can see the comparison with Park Fare, but I personally wouldn't say the DLH comes near on it's breakfast. And I love the DLH breakfast - the one thing it does have is a magical view that is quite unique though. I'd say even the food offerings at Park Fare were better and of course, the characters were amazing.

Clearly they want to do away with the option of breakfast - I don't know why they just didn't do that? Or, perhaps they want to push their full meal plan? I guess if you got a 'meal deal' free with your package then that's an option.

I still can't understand the logic of not having it included as standard at the DLH, at the prices they charge per night, but will include it in the cheaper Club rooms at SQL/NPB. They already include 1 free FP per day which isn't included in standard rooms in other hotels, so I'm sure they could differentiate with this.

I've emailed the link to my Mum. As much as I love the DLH, I think without breakfast, I just can't justify 400+ per night for next May, even if it does include tickets. The sad thing is, Mum hasn't been for a good few years but actually loves the breakfast at DLH (she's not a ride person), and always looks forward to it.

Perhaps that's the next thing - if they are pulling resorts in line. Kiss goodbye to tickets being included in packages... Seems to make sense. If they dramatically increase AP prices and drop tickets out of packages, I wonder what people will do! I wouldn't pay some of those AP prices quoted in that survey.
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I saw this earlier on a fb group. I think breakfast is still included at the moment but from 13th October it will be changing. Personally I don't usually have breakfast, just take cereal bars then have something in Salon Mickey. The new prices seem very expensive, and the half board prices are going up a lot too. I think at this rate it really won't cost much more to go to WDW.
Funnily enough, I just nearly typed this above and took it out. I've never got the 'I could go to WDW for the price of DLRP' comments - for us, a family of 4, having to travel in peak school holidays, it was never a cheaper option (or even similar). But honestly, with the way they are pushing, I can see this!

The thing is, Florida is cheap when you are there, Paris is not, it's astronomical - I think they need to remember that when pricing things. They will outprice the average family before long.
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Funnily enough, I just nearly typed this above and took it out. I've never got the 'I could go to WDW for the price of DLRP' comments - for us, a family of 4, having to travel in peak school holidays, it was never a cheaper option (or even similar). But honestly, with the way they are pushing, I can see this!

The thing is, Florida is cheap when you are there, Paris is not, it's astronomical - I think they need to remember that when pricing things. They will outprice the average family before long.
I've never got it either but with the increase in hotel prices and the price of food and drink at DLP it wouldn't cost much more to go to Florida and stay offsite. At least there are so many offsite restaurants in Florida. I do think DLP AP'S will have a huge price increase. I wonder if the offsite hotels will change the booking system, I book Dream Castle with Travel Republic and book the room only price but it always includes breakfast even though it doesn't say it.
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Things like this are going to push me off site again for sure. I usually stay at the Ibis in val d'europe which is about 50 quid a night, and there's a little shop at the station where I can get a croissant and a drink for 2 euros.

The character breakfast is also moving to Plaza gardens from of March, you can no longer do it if you stay offsite:

A bit confused by the characters breakfast, if that's the only charge then surely you'd just do that rather than eat in your hotel? If you have to pay the hotel fee too how is it fair that someone at DLH has to pay 23 quid plus the charge for the character breakfast while someone at Santa fe only pays 13 quid plus the character breakfast charge?
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I've just had a look at booking for next year and it says breakfast included except for Davy Crockett
That's direct on the Disneyland Paris website
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