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Old 16 Jul 19, 02:16 PM  
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Originally Posted by greekgranny View Post
Surely rib damage Is better than the alternative ?
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my son choked in Orlando 3 years ago. There was no breathing, no coughing, nothing. SlLaps to back didnt work, the restaurant manager came and performed the Heimlich and on the 2nd attempt it worked.

He was fine after although incredibly distressed. I spent a year self medicating with prescription pain killers and ultimately ended up with a diagnosis of PSTD. Some therapy later it still makes me cry when i think about it (like now) but the worst is over thank god.

Never ever worry about hurting someones ribs or back or anything. The alternative is death. Just hurt them and hurt them and hurt them till they live.


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I'm a trained first aider and the course I took included going over what to do when babies and children choke.

The main issue people have, particularly towards children, is they don't want to hurt the person they are trying to help.

As Lemmonie says, a hurt person is better than a dead person.

A child or baby (or adult) can recover from a broken rib or punctured lung, but it's a lot harder to come back from the alternative.
Exactly the message I was trying to convey at the start of the thread.
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Old 22 Jul 19, 06:13 AM  
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A few years ago I was alone in the kitchen at home, clearing dishes after a steak dinner. One of the kids had left some pieces on their plate and I ate one of them. Only I didnt chew properly and it got stuck in my throat.
It was a horrible experience, at first I tried to swallow, then I didnt get air so natural instinct is to try to breathe in. I couldnt call for help and started panicking. Finally began coughing and after 3-4 coughs managed to get the piece out. Was shaking afterwards, absolutely frightening.
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Old 22 Jul 19, 08:01 AM  
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You can perform the Heimlich manoeuvre on yourself using the back of a chair for extra force.

Fortunately I've never had to do it on myself or others. DD choked a few times when she was little, not able to get air in or out, luckily holding her downwards across my lap while I gave firm slaps on her back solved the problem. But I can still hear the two ladies on the table next to me at Ikea, "Oh, look, that baby's choking!" They didn't offer to help or check I was OK after the experience.
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Old 22 Jul 19, 10:40 AM  
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This happened to me a couple of years ago with a piece of beef. My airway was completely blocked. Strangely I didn’t panic but went totally calm, time seemed to stop and I remember getting up from the chair and thinking if I don’t get this out I am going to die. I balled up both my fists shoved them under my ribs and bent forwards as far and as fast as I could and out it popped.
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There are some good 1st aid apps before you go on your course
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