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Is anyone else concerned that the current DAS system in place is as open to abuse as its previous incarnation?

As someone with a disability it seems odd that the need for the pass is granted on say so (due to the discrimination laws), without evidence.

Maybe Im just used to the beurocracy of the UK, but Im surprised that some form of written evidence isnt needed.

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I think the new system works well. I guess it is open for people to abuse, but due to you now having to wait with a return time similar to the queueing time there is no real benefit to abusing the system. But for those with special needs (including my DD) its a great help.
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I had a DAS issued in Feb and it was a life saver for me.

I actually would have been more comfortable if Id had to give evidence- which I could have done- because Im well aware I look like a perfectly fine and healthy young woman. I was very nervous going to ask for one that I would be turned down but I wasnt and Im very grateful for the CM who I talked to for really understanding why I needed the DAS.

That being said I saw it being abused several times over the week we were there.

The most frequent abuse we saw was people using a magic band that had a DAS return time on it that wasnt their own. It must have belonged to a member of their party who was sitting a ride out, and they would just pull the magic band out of a pocket and use the DAS return time from it. One time a guy was even trying to use his own magic band but was refused by the cast member, then remembered he needed the other magic band and found it in his bag. Nothing was said though the CM did roll her eyes.

We also saw a couple asking a CM about why they had given us return times. When they found out it was a disability thing they asked where they could get a DAS issued. Obviously I dont know for sure that they didnt need one but I do think if you had a disability that effects you all the time theres a good chance you would have researched into the DAS before arriving at the parks. But I could be wrong I suppose.

And even though you are technically waiting for your return time to come up sometimes we did feel a bit guilty. After all sitting in the shade sipping frozen ros waiting for your return time to come up is very different from waiting in a standby queue for an hour or more. Even though I knew I needed it I felt the need to constantly mentally reassure myself that I wasnt taking advantage.

I just personally feel that if everyone did have to give medical evidence then I wouldnt feel that way, because I would know that the CMs know Im not lying, and that all the other people with DASes arent lying. I would know that I definitely did need one and that would be that.

I also would have liked to see CMs pull up the people using someone elses magic band to use the DAS, considering DASes are actually linked to a photo of the person with the disability, I assume so CMs can identify the disabled member of the party.
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That all being said I understand Disney cannot ask for evidence so I cant really see a better policy then the one they currently have.

I do think the current DAS is still abused, because it sure is better then queuing, but if they got rid of it so many people would not be able to enjoy the parks. If it wasnt for the DAS there are so many rides we just couldnt have waited for, as I cant stand for that long in one position.

We will just have to hope that people understand that its not for them if they are able bodied.
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Because you are waiting same amount of time as everyone else who has to physically stand and queue youd think it was equal but i suppose everything is open to being abused, personally my moral compass wouldnt allow us to abuse something thats set up for benefitting others. I have only known this set up not the one before, and I understand due to their laws why proof isnt needed but personally because to get anything remotely similar here I have to show proof for my daughter I wouldnt be bothered showing them either, if Im honest Id prefer to show proof.
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Originally Posted by dreamisawish View Post
That all being said I understand Disney cannot ask for evidence so I cant really see a better policy then the one they currently have.

I do think the current DAS is still abused, because it sure is better then queuing, but if they got rid of it so many people would not be able to enjoy the parks. If it wasnt for the DAS there are so many rides we just couldnt have waited for, as I cant stand for that long in one position.

We will just have to hope that people understand that its not for them if they are able bodied.
This is my hope also. I only posed the question as I know of someone (not sure if they use the Dibb, so wont go into detail), and they used it as a way to get on a few rides they couldnt get fast pass for and couldnt be bothered to wait in standby.
They found out about DAS, claimed one of the party had a condition and actually recommend it to people going.
It makes me feel ill that people can abuse the system in this way as the end result is likely to be some form of criteria being put in place to control it.
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This is my hope also. I only posed the question as I know of someone (not sure if they use the Dibb, so wont go into detail), and they used it as a way to get on a few rides they couldnt get fast pass for and couldnt be bothered to wait in standby.
They found out about DAS, claimed one of the party had a condition and actually recommend it to people going.
It makes me feel ill that people can abuse the system in this way as the end result is likely to be some form of criteria being put in place to control it.
We used it to get on to flight of passage which we didnt have a fast pass for. Obviously that wasnt the reason I went for it, I do have a genuine disability, but it was getting a return time for FOP which really made me realise how much it can be abused. Waiting whilst riding other rides you have FPs for or eating lunch is way preferable to waiting in a 3 hour queue. I need a DAS and even I felt a bit guilty when we got to walk through the FP line past all those people waiting.

I also saw someone else saying theyd seen a disabled man saying if a family paid for him to take him on a trip he would be able to get them on to any ride without a standby wait with his DAS. I believe that was on a post here on the dibb. With galaxys edge opening up soon- with no FPs as well- Im sure it will be abused even more in the next year.
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My son is autistic so we'll be asking for DAS. I'll be taking his diagnosis letter anyway.

I hope it will help him - he wasn't diagnosed on our previous trips and we spent a lot of time in the hotel room.

I can see how it could be abused like all systems.
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