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Unread 18 May 19, 02:58 PM  
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Could always just go and whack a private road no access sign in the ground and see if anyone complains and if it changes behaviour.

Seems wrong to discourage kids from playing outside, we live in a small close as well, but can understand the frustration if they are not kids from the cul-de-sac.

I take it that the softly approach of we don't mind you playing here but watch the cars has been tried and failed.
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Unread 18 May 19, 03:09 PM  
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do you think that damaging other people's property is ok? i have quite politely requested they don't kick the balls at my cars or plants! I'm sure the police have better things to do with their time. Regarding the skate board ramp, i don't think it's acceptable, baring in mind the single carriageway to have to wait for them to disassemble their ramp so that we can get into our road.
Sorry, but where have I said damaging other peoples property is acceptable. I was merely asking what other things they had done

So, you have politely asked them to not do it and I'm guessing they have ignored these requests... you're right the police do have better things to do with their time and if you feel that's something you shouldn't bother them with then fair enough but based on what you've written I'm not sure telling them it's private property and restricted access is actually going to cut it with "feral" kids
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We live in a similar road. Four detached houses and we all own a bit of the road and grassy area. Its on our deeds that ours is a private road. I would be pretty unhappy too if kids from outside the close were running amok and kicking balls at cars. I would maybe have a word with parents and point out that damage is being caused and they really should not be playing there as it is a private road.
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Unadopted and private are two different things.

Unadopted means the local authority have now responsibility.

Private means the land is owned by an individual, company or consortium of individuals and is registered as such with the land registry.

It can be unadopted and public if the registered owner is not known and registered. Often the frontage owners jointly maintain these types of roads. But they aren't private as such.

First step is who is the land registered too.
Thats my understanding as well. To me it sounds as though the road is unadopted but not private ie it is a public right of way.
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i've just found the drawing - it's actually within our boundary so it is private, with access to the other cul de sac houses.
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Ownership is not the deciding factor as to whether the road is public or private.

The local authority highways team can tell you the status of the road or at least whether they deem it a highway (public)

Lots of title deeds include land which is adopted highway which is why that is only relevant if you find that the road is private. If it is then the owners can restrict access by the public.
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Ownership is not the deciding factor as to whether the road is public or private.

The local authority highways team can tell you the status of the road or at least whether they deem it a highway (public)

Lots of title deeds include land which is adopted highway which is why that is only relevant if you find that the road is private. If it is then the owners can restrict access by the public.
so it it's in my boundary and i'm responsible for it's upkeep (i know this) it's not private?
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Originally Posted by vhm672 View Post
Ownership is not the deciding factor as to whether the road is public or private.

The local authority highways team can tell you the status of the road or at least whether they deem it a highway (public)

Lots of title deeds include land which is adopted highway which is why that is only relevant if you find that the road is private. If it is then the owners can restrict access by the public.
Highways can only tell you if it is adopted. Used to work for the local authority highways dept years ago.

That and the land registry info will tell you if it is registered as private. Adopted trumps all, even if privately owned.

Also have to consider how old it is and whether there is through access as all determine whether there is a right of way, even if private.

Do your deeds show you owning the whole road, or just the portion outside of your frontage. What do they say about access rights? If are shown as owning it all then there must be something in there for access for others. If you only own part then again there should be something about your and others rights to access.

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