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Old 19 Aug 21, 11:32 PM  
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Maybe so, but the point is to cut the queue, and the queue for it isn’t too bad most of the time, I’d be surprised if that was the ride and many people paid for it. Everest or river journey tend to have much higher queue times and I would have thought people would be more likely to pay for them.
Actually at the moment, safari has the longest average wait time of the three. Closely followed by Navi then a good gap to Everest.

I went back to pre-Covid and it was Navi then safari then Everest but Navi would have been skewed by the tier one effect since everyone was booking FOP if they could.

But the real point of this is to make Disney money, not enhance the guest experience. All other things being equal, the most recognisable ride wins.
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Old 19 Aug 21, 11:39 PM  
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Originally Posted by loldis View Post
Actually at the moment, safari has the longest average wait time of the three. Closely followed by Navi then a good gap to Everest.

I went back to pre-Covid and it was Navi then safari then Everest but Navi would have been skewed by the tier one effect since everyone was booking FOP if they could.

But the real point of this is to make Disney money, not enhance the guest experience. All other things being equal, the most recognisable ride wins.
Yes I was thinking more precovid. And yes maybe your right, but those that know disney will know what to book and won’t buy it, and those that don’t I would think would see the wait time is doable and not bother paying for it either. While yes I agree it’s about what makes money, I would have thought that most people would only pay if they needed to cut the queue, not because it’s the most familiar ride, at least that’s how I would go about it, but I’m not everyone
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Old 19 Aug 21, 11:47 PM  
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The fact that you will most likely have to pay for these at 7am means people aren't going to be standing looking at a wait times board and making an informed decision. They're going to book the ride they want to go on. Plus far less people are in the know than you are giving credit for I think.

People in the know wouldn't be buying passes for any of those options. They're easy rope drops due to everyone else heading to FOP.
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Old 19 Aug 21, 11:58 PM  
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Although not confirmed by Disney yet, a guy with inside sources at WDW says that these are the likely Genie+ and Lightning Lane attractions they are looking at:

MK

“it’s a small world”
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
Dumbo the Flying Elephant
Enchanted Tails with Belle
Haunted Mansion
Jungle Cruise
Mad Tea Party
Mickey’s PhilharMagic
Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
Peter Pan’s Flight
Pirates of the Caribbean
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (*Individual LL only)
Space Mountain (*Individual LL only)
Splash Mountain
The Barnstormer
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Tomorrowland Speedway
Under the Sea – Journey of the Little Mermaid

Epcot

Disney and Pixar Short Film Festival
Frozen Ever After
Journey Into Imagination with Figment
Living with the Land
Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure (*Individual LL only. Will also be a virtual queue.)
Soarin’ Around the World
Spaceship Earth
Test Track (*Individual LL only)
The Seas with Nemo & Friends
Turtle Talk with Crush

HS

Alien Swirling Saucers
Mickey & Minnie’s Runaway Railway
Millennium Falcon: Smugglers Run
MuppetVision 3D
Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster
Slinky Dog Dash (*Individual LL only)
Star Tours – The Adventures Continue
Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance (*Individual LL only. Will also be a virtual queue.)
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
Toy Story Mania

AK

Avatar Flight of Passage (*Individual LL only)
DINOSAUR
Expedition Everest – Legend of the Forbidden Mountain
It’s Tough to be a Bug
Kalie River Rapids
Kilimanjaro Safaris (*Individual LL only)
Na’vi River Journey
The Animation Experience at Conservation Station
If that ends up being the list, the only one I’d defo pay LL for is ROTR, I think. Probably throw Space Mountain and Kili Safari in there if we hadn’t done them by the end of the trip as they’re two of our favourites. The rest I’d be happy to see how standby panned out or just skip them.

After the year and a half we’ve all had, I’ll be happy just to be there n go with the flow tbh
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Old 20 Aug 21, 12:12 AM  
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I would not be surprised if there were a few more rides on the "individual" list, but if this is accurate then it's great. Of course, all newer rides like Tron or GOTG will be on the list, with free virtual ride options too. Sounds great to me! If you can't get on the virtual line, you still have a chance to pay and get to ride. If it's your last day on a trip of a lifetime and you didn't get a boarding pass for ROTR, then you have the chance of not being gutted - for a price. I know what I'd do!

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From what I can see, with genie you can only make a new selection once you've scanned into the current FP, so you wouldn't be able to stack like this would you?
Someone else further up on this thread suggested it will be the same as old paper WDW FastPass and DL MaxPass in that if the reservation made is a long time in the future, you will be able to make another one after a period of time - either 1.5 or 2 hours.

I'm just watching the DIS Unplugged as I type this, and they've just said that this element is still unknown.

However from a backend systems perspective, if this system has recycled existing software components, or is a re-badging of the MaxPass system, then the ability to stack may be kinda included by default.
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