Fastpass / Genie - are you going to need a doctorate to understand it?

[aprilshack]

Originally Posted by Pumba75

Unless I’ve missed it, the park access reservation system will still be in place, so you’re still having to make decisions on which parks on which days and potentially at more than 60 days out.

Also, if you pay for your headliner and it’s not operating at the time you were due (weather, technical reasons etc), which isn’t an uncommon experience, then it gets even messier.

We’re due back Xmas 2022 - this, in conjunction with other changes, makes the prospect of visiting the parks more complex, which I don’t necessarily have a problem with, but to me it is a diminished experience. The fact that Disney want/expect me to pay more for that “privilege” means we will probably just do Universal and look at other experiences we haven’t done before, giving the Disney parks a miss altogether.

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I am wondering how they will handle refunds for all these micro transactions when the rides break down.

[Pumba75]

Originally Posted by aprilshack

Disney will find a way to wriggle out of it.

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There’s not really anything to wriggle out of. Fastpass won’t exist next year so there’s no way of providing it. Unfortunately they can’t honour something which no longer exists.

And as mentioned earlier, changes to the “ancillary benefits” of the Ultimate passes beyond their core element of park entrance will be provided for in the T&C’s.

I did say to Mrs P last night, if I’d been booked to go next year, I’d be fuming now. I particularly feel for those that booked years ago for on-site trips that have been cancelled due to Covid who are getting nothing like what they were expecting.

[Pumba75]

Originally Posted by aprilshack

I am wondering how they will handle refunds for all these micro transactions when the rides break down.

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I’m assuming they’ll offer you the chance to switch to another attraction and/or time slot, but if there’s nothing suitable available then they’ll have to refund, which is normally anything up to 5 working days to go back via your card.

[aprilshack]

Originally Posted by Pumba75

There’s not really anything to wriggle out of. Fastpass won’t exist next year so there’s no way of providing it. Unfortunately they can’t honour something which no longer exists.

And as mentioned earlier, changes to the “ancillary benefits” of the Ultimate passes beyond their core element of park entrance will be provided for in the T&C’s.

I did say to Mrs P last night, if I’d been booked to go next year, I’d be fuming now. I particularly feel for those that booked years ago for on-site trips that have been cancelled due to Covid who are getting nothing like what they were expecting.

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Supposed to be going in December and booked for next August. Not impressed.

[Nimbus]

Originally Posted by natanddaz

Are you having a laugh have you heard of the goldmine that is Disney+

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Disney+ is a different part of the business. It comes under the "Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution" division. Whereas the parks come under the "Disney Parks, Experiences and Products" division. Each division will have it's own targets to meet and it's own profits to make. They are, in a way, different companies that happen to be part of the same overall group.

So, Disney+ might be a goldmine but this doesn't help the Disney parks recoup their losses.

[Tinkerbell]

Ok so $15pppd gives you what exactly

[loves2plan]

Originally Posted by Crisps

In a way, this makes things a little easier planning wise, because you’re not rigidly having to plan which park on what day 30/60 days out on the current (well, obsolete now!) system. I do think it isn’t as bad as it could have been; they could have gone down the Universal route and charged $100+, but $15 a day isn’t as outrageously expensive as it could have been. Of course this will add up to a lot for a large family, and once full details are released and the pricing for the headline attractions are released I could see it being very expensive. This’ll just make rope drop even more stressful and increase morning wait times, which is probably a sneaky way of getting people to pay for it anyway!

Maybe including it for free for deluxe resort guests similar to what Universal do would have been nice though.

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You still have to decide which park you want to go to each day and book park reservations, which can be done 12 months+ in advance! Or you wait and see what's available on the day/nearer the time. I'm guessing most people will still do this a few months out, so no real difference there. Before there was a purpose as you booked fastpasses, now there's no real purpose other than helping Disney work out their staffing levels for each park.

[loldis]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell

Ok so $15pppd gives you what exactly

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Ability to book FPs at 40ish tier 2 attractions, in the next available slot, each day that you hold the pass. That's it.

Oh, and some photo filters. Therefore they're still providing a service even if no rides are available.

[Shinealight]

Just cancelled our 10 night stay at CBR next May. It's already been moved three times now and the holiday is nothing like what we originally booked and even more expensive, so sent a cancellation email this morning. We still have a 4 nights complimentary stay which we'll keep but we'll stay off-site for the rest of the stay. Line drawn now!

[dan223]

Originally Posted by mostlybobbins

I'm not entirely certain that you can book both rides at the same time. You can book one, then the second after you've used up that booking (like the fourth FP of the day in old money). I could be wrong, but that's what I assumed.

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I would assume you could as your buying the tickets and only limited to two attractions.