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Old 31 Jul 21, 03:39 PM  
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We have a camera that points at our drive way- we had numerous incidents of the feral kids across the way hitting and damaging our cars when they play on our driveway! It could look as though its overlooking our neighbours garden but it isn't, it just covers our driveway. We only look at it if something happens (ie yesterday one of the plant pots was knocked over- it was a magpie)
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Old 31 Jul 21, 04:45 PM  
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We have 3 security camera's looking over the back garden as we have our Motorhome at bottom of garden behind gates , we are end house only 1 of the camera's is up high but have made sure we are not looking over next door property the camera looks over Motorhome and pavement/road next to house we have small TV on all the time to view the 3 camera's at the same time .
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Old 31 Jul 21, 06:47 PM  
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We have a camera at the front and one at the back, neither look on to our neighbours property. We got them because DH works away and I kept waking up in the night, thinking I heard someone downstairs. The cameras mean I can check them on my phone while still in bed instead of prowling around the house in the wee small hours looking for an imaginary burglar, then lying awake half the night.

Unless I hear a noise in the night I never check them so your neighbour might be the same and only have it in case thereís any damage to his car.

I am definitely not saying they should be looking in your garden though.
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Old 31 Jul 21, 07:03 PM  
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I donít know for sure until I go round tonight when heís home, but itís so intrusive, we only have a small garden and it feels like itís on top of us. I will ask him to show us the footage later, hopefully he wonít have an issue if itís not on our property
Did you get any answers?
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Old 31 Jul 21, 09:53 PM  
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Thank you everyone for your replies, itís much appreciated. Iíve been round a couple of times today, no answer but Iím sure they know that Iíve been round cos they will have seen me on the camera!

It actually looks like they have gone away on holiday, so I might not get an answer just yet, I will report back though once I know.

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Old 1 Aug 21, 10:51 AM  
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Yes it is illegal. CCTV must not view anything outside of your own property. It must not invade the privacy of other houses. i.e. their land.
This is not true, if it views anything outside your property you need to adhere to gdpr but itís not illegal
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You can make a subject access request if they are recording outside of their property, they also need to display the contact details for making this application. It would be my guess that they have not considered this.

Best thing as you are asking is to have a chat but could be a bit sticky as if he says itís only recording his property he has no obligation to show you the video.

I guess it all falls on how good a person he is
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But you are only looking at the ICO and GDPR with I agree is legal if the guidelines are followed. But this is a human rights violation. If a camera is recording what goes on in another persons house where they expect a reasonable level of privacy then that can be considered illegal.

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Ask yourself if you would be happy with a neighbours camera pointing into your bathroom?
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But you are only looking at the ICO and GDPR with I agree is legal if the guidelines are followed. But this is a human rights violation. If a camera is recording what goes on in another persons house where they expect a reasonable level of privacy then that can be considered illegal.

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Ask yourself if you would be happy with a neighbours camera pointing into your bathroom?
The distinction is based upon what purpose the camera serves. If itís primary target is a drive to protect the users property then incidental views outside the drive should be minimised or masked. However if there is a camera which has been installed which serves little purpose but covers large areas outside the users property then they would be on shaker ground. The use of the cameras has to be proportional to the perceived security threat. The link you posted is outdated as it does not mention GDPR which has overreaching jurisdiction on both domestic and commercial application of CCTV and does bestow even private installations with legal obligations to safeguard private data and has wide compliance mechanisms and fines if users do not comply. The country is littered with camera which have poor image quality and are badly positioned so as to constitute a nuisance under human rights legislation. Unfortunately people can buy cameras from Amazon and put them where they please with little consideration of the actual views and the optimal positioning to obtain the best views. This is a minefield if your neighbours start kicking up a fuss. I have a cctv system at home but as I run a business here I am already registered with the ICO so treat it as a business asset. I also design CCTV for large infrastructure users in transportation and nuclear industry usually several hundred cameras as a minimum, each has to be considered for its use and effectiveness. The best defence is physical security like lighting and fences. CCTV will not necessarily prevent crime or loss and is merely an aid to conviction
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The current rules for private individuals can be found in clear notes here

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