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Old 22 Jun 21, 11:43 AM  
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This was suppose to be a positive thread.
Itís very good news. Weíre getting there!
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Old 22 Jun 21, 11:45 AM  
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Could only be adults as children are not vaccinated.
Well, not quite. The survey looks for antibodies which means through vaccination OR prior infection.

But, that said, the ONS survey does only assess adults. I think other studies - Imperial, possibly - looks across the entire population.
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Old 22 Jun 21, 01:30 PM  
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Whilst it is true that the younger ages show less visible signs, it is being seen that they are suffering organ damage from the virus which could be a huge problem for them in the future.
If we're so concerned about context then let's have the source and context behind this. This a very big statement and frankly could cause a lot of worry.
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Old 22 Jun 21, 01:42 PM  
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Well, not quite. The survey looks for antibodies which means through vaccination OR prior infection.

But, that said, the ONS survey does only assess adults. I think other studies - Imperial, possibly - looks across the entire population.
Do you happen to know how you go about getting tested for antibodies that the government will take into account to add to the immunity stats? My Dd has antibodies from prior infection but has no way of letting the powers that be know.

There could be many more people out there with antibodies than we think. I havenít really heard of anyone whoís had an antibody test. We paid for ours privately and they said it was only for personal info as they canít/donít pass it on.

Iím not expecting you to know by the way, Itís just you seem to know more about it than I do. 😊

Oh just to add which I thought was interesting, we went to an ENT specialist as dd has long covid parosmia and he was saying that they believe and it looks like most people whoíve had covid (or those that are suffering long covid, canít remember which) do seem to have antibodies for 12 months or more?

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If we're so concerned about context then let's have the source and context behind this. This a very big statement and frankly could cause a lot of worry.
There are studies out there (e.g. medrxiv/content/10.1...555v1.full.pdf) that say this but 'young' in a medical context doesn't mean children, it means 'not old'.

Also, while organ damage sounds really serious it could mean breathlesness that ultuimately resolves.

So, in reality, it's saying "Long covid is a thing" rather than "Children are getting organ damage".
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Well the positive news didn't last for long

Well i'm positive.

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Yup the `positive` news on the Dibb lasted for...

* looks at watch *...

... round about... 21 minutes...
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Yup the `positive` news on the Dibb lasted for...

* looks at watch *...

... round about... 21 minutes...
Personally I think there is more good news than bad right now .
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More Ďgoodí (if almost obvious) news. Modellers seem to have been on the money again.

Matt Hancock:

ďThankfully the number of hospitalisations, while rising, is not rising very quickly and thankfully even more is that the number of people dying from Covid remains very, very low.Ē

And another headline just now:

Flu and pneumonia deaths now ten times higher than Covid
New ONS data reveals that Covid deaths now make up just 0.8 per cent of all fatalities, down from 1.3 per cent.

Our vaccines were a miracle and the scientists true heros. Now itís time to move on and thank them as we do so.
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