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Unread 20 May 19, 08:07 AM  
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Hi Thank you for all your responses. I totally understand what you all say but I think you've simplyfied the situation.
I appreciate I have no employment rights I understand they can say no ( C'est la vie) but it is something the Em services do and have done for others in my unique role, the only issue here is how they can convert 1 role into 2 part time roles, 1 is em services 1 is civilian. Therefore as they do convert jobs it's not beyond the role of possibility my question is how can they convert 1 role worked by 2 people on similar contracts ( I am on more at the moment due to time served, almost double my job share) to a job still worked by 2 people where I will be on lesser pay ( so they win there) Only my job share will still remain in the Em services and I will become a civilian.
To put in simple terms one of my roles in the job is so unique there are only 2 of us in the County and it's a very big county !

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They will need someone to fill the post but it won't become a full time post as my job share has young children and she will not be forced out. Therefore a part time post is still available. I appreciate talking Em Services ( Police) is different to most organisations I'm after ideas how I get around 1 post being divided by a police officer and a civilian because at the moment it's covered by 2 Police Officers. Is it easy to divide a post like this?
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Can't you just delay retirement?
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Also the type of role it is, they will not fill with someone that is able to conduct the full role of a Police Officer because they are too useful out on the streets. I have a disability but this job is perfect for me and that has been recognised. My disability was through an accident on duty, it does not restrict me from any role of this job. Therefore it is doubtful there is a P/t officer with a disability that could fill the role. I am not working out of the main county station so it would incur additional travelling expenses as there is no one that could do this in the area I work.
What I am trying to say is that it is doubtful there is anyone who would apply for the role who is a Police officer. Therefore it would have to be converted to a civilian post. I am trying to think of a solution for my report to them in which I can suggest a way forward.
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Can't you just delay retirement?
No

The government changed all the pensions I have sought financial advice and I would be far worse off.
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I know zero about this situation, but with your current role being so specialised, and you're prepared to continue working it as a civilian, wouldn't the powers that be want to be snatching you up in a flash?

It sounds like it won't be that straightforward, but hope you can sort something out.
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You could take flexible retirement where you take you full pension and return on reduced hours with mutual consent between you and your employer. Not sure how old you are but if you are retiring between 50 and 55 you would have to have a months' break due to the Protected Pension Age and would be subject to abatement (but then you would if you returned to work for the same employer anyway if these are the scheme rules). This is where your new pay and pension added together can't be more than your old salary,
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Assuming I've read this right you are looking to suggest that going foreward the role is carried out by a civilian rather than a police officer. The job role and hours remain the same. Is this correct?

I've just spoken to my brother ( until he retired he was very high up in WMP) about this and said put the case forward that it is saving Police resources on the ground at a key time but it may also be viewed as an additional cost as the chances are they may just change someone's elses role. He said to check if there is any other instances where this may have happened and use that as an example
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