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29 Jan 20, 08:12 PM |
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I dont think JSA exists now it is all universal credit, which has very strict rules and conditions. Living at home the amount will be very basic, and it is paid in arears. All job searches etc are done electronically with everything recorded on your page. It takes time to get sorted out, probably easier for a graduate to get a job, even any job otherwise surely its a bit of a waste of several years studying and getting into student loans etc just to sign on after completion of degree.
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29 Jan 20, 09:10 PM |
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It’s not who pays for the holiday , it’s the principle of claiming whilst “having a little holiday” . It’s not pocket money funded by the taxpayer , it’s paid to those actively seeking work.
I do agree any graduate leaving job hunting til after graduation , exams or even later is far more likely to miss the boat though . |
29 Jan 20, 09:16 PM |
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Join Date: Jan 03
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I can’t understand why any graduate’s parent is asking about claiming benefits. Surely benefits are for those in real need, not just finishing Uni.
We paid for DS1 holiday to Florida after he finished Uni, didn’t enter our head for him to apply for benefits. He ended up starting his own business and has done ever since.
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29 Jan 20, 09:19 PM |
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But he cannot claim while having a holiday, UC will not be paid as he is not in the country or actively seeking work. UC claimants often get their benefit sanctioned if they miss one day online job searching, let alone a week or two in the sun.
I agree that securing a job would be my daughter’s priority too, but she may be able to secure a job which wouldn’t start until August/September so could still take a holiday. She would not claim benefits. However, that’s my family, I still feel Bondy asked a simple question and wanted a simple reply, not opinions on whether his son is right or wrong to make a claim. Edited at 09:20 PM. |
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29 Jan 20, 09:20 PM |
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Bon viveur and shopaholic
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29 Jan 20, 09:27 PM |
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I agree, and have explained that no one would be able to claim UC while travelling. Even if someone claimed UC before travelling, they would have to be applying for jobs and if they refused to take a job (as they had a holiday booked) they would be sanctioned. So, in theory they could claim UC, but the practice is not that simple.
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29 Jan 20, 09:40 PM |
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Join Date: Apr 10
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My son did start looking before he left uni and I did book and pay for a Florida holiday for him. He found a job , started July but was refused time off for the holiday in August so I lost his flight money. It was unfortunate but one of those things -
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29 Jan 20, 09:46 PM |
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That’s a shame you lost the money. Some companies will honour prebooked holidays, but if it’s a graduate scheme with training involved it can be difficult as the new starter would miss the training. Also, if he hadn’t secured a job then I’m sure he would have really appreciated the lovely holiday. It’s a gamble to book but you realised this. I hope your son is enjoying his new career 😀
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29 Jan 20, 10:15 PM |
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Join Date: Oct 11
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They are entitled to claim benefits if they meet the conditions and if graduates don’t have a job straight away, I don’t see what’s wrong with them claiming until they do get a job. Even just to protect their National Insurance record. We can’t have it both ways - wanting students to be independent but expecting parents to support them if they struggle to find work.
Some universities used to organise signing on sessions for final year students as they know not everyone gets a job straightaway. Some courses have 100% employment rates but not all of them.
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29 Jan 20, 10:20 PM |
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Join Date: Jan 18
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You can pay your national insurance direct without signing on. I remember the days when people would take any job in the name of pride and dignity alas by this thread these days are well gone.
If parents have disposable income then I believe they should support their child with loans/gifts of money. Signing on used to be a thing of shame I am truly taken aback at how normal/mainstream it has become... |
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