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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:22 AM  
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Grabbing her by the neck left her arms and hands free - if she was armed etc then he put himself and others at more risk - that is if her intentions were to cause harm ?
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:23 AM  
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So they were supposed to wait until her intentions were obvious before having her removed? 🙄
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:23 AM  
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From that i take it you ve never been a victim of DV?
Awful comment shows no senstivity
This is nothing to do with DV. That happens behind closed doors, between people known to each other etc. This did not remotely resemble DV and bringing it up in this context is not appropriate.
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:24 AM  
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How do you know her intention was peaceful - did you know her and her plan?

So if she had got all the way to her intended target and threw acid in their face and those around them, what would you now be saying?
I just think thank god he acted as quickly and responsibly as he did as we don’t know what the consequences could have been had she reached her target .
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:26 AM  
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His reaction was fast and you could see he was furious, a comment from someone within the climate change network said they had no reason to believe she was armed ...so that means that’s they don’t condone it ...what if she decided to take Jo Brands advice and spray a small bottle of acid ? We would be looking at a whole new story today.

I’m very surprised that with London being on high alert for terrorism there was such a poor level of security
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:26 AM  
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Grabbing her by the neck left her arms and hands free - if she was armed etc then he put himself and others at more risk - that is if her intentions were to cause harm ?
The stages of engagement are 'Contact', 'Control' and 'Counter' following on from each other as necessary. He only needed the first two stages, there was no necessity to escalate to 'Counter'.
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:26 AM  
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This is nothing to do with DV. That happens behind closed doors, between people known to each other etc. This did not remotely resemble DV and bringing it up in this context is not appropriate.
I respectfully disagree.
Being held around the throat is a trigger for alot of victims.
You are of course entitled to your opinion. Experience alters opinions.
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:27 AM  
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Grabbing her by the neck left her arms and hands free - if she was armed etc then he put himself and others at more risk - that is if her intentions were to cause harm ?
He acted on impulse, do you seriously think he had time to sit there and deliberate over how to restrain her ?
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:30 AM  
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He acted on impulse, do you seriously think he had time to sit there and deliberate over how to restrain her ?
exactly

after the Jo Cox murder (possibly before) im sure all MP have had some sort of self defence/restraining training... he acted on instinct imo..

im guessing* the throat is a good option for restraining a potential threat?


* i have no idea but seems reasonable imo
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Old 21 Jun 19, 09:31 AM  
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Regardless of wether the protester was peacfull or not, she was not invited therefore tresspassing, if you tresspass any event then you have to expect to be thrown out.
To me it didn't seem that the force was unreasonable, I've certainly been thrown out of nightclubs with a lot more force than that, I didn't go crying to social media because of it though.
Due to world events over the last few years we now live with a fear of terror and what could happen at any moment, would anyone be able to say with authority wether the protester was armed or wanted to cause harm?
I get that people need to protese to stick up for what they believe in, however there are ways and means and by invading a private event you are asking for trouble?
Had there been a police officer/guard there would they have acted any different?
Say the event had involved a family member and harm had been caused, would you be saying the same things if everyone stood by and watched?
Unfortunatly these are the times we live in.
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