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Old 9 Oct 21, 11:20 AM  
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Originally Posted by nolypops83 View Post
I'll say it again, I think everyone needs to relax. It goes live before any of us can even get in to the US so let's wait and see what the Americans make of it before getting our knickers in a twist.
We already know that Genie + is going to cost families a fortune. Especially those that stay for more than 3 nights ( UK visitors). I guess it may not be necessary to purchase Genie + in the off peak periods but for most on here that have children or work in schools the experience will be a lot worse without Genie + unless you enjoy 60 minute queues in 90 degree heat
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Originally Posted by Moorlandman View Post
We already know that Genie + is going to cost families a fortune. Especially those that stay for more than 3 nights ( UK visitors). I guess it may not be necessary to purchase Genie + in the off peak periods but for most on here that have children or work in schools the experience will be a lot worse without Genie + unless you enjoy 60 minute queues in 90 degree heat
It's not like it's going to affect you anyway 😋
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We already know that Genie + is going to cost families a fortune. Especially those that stay for more than 3 nights ( UK visitors). I guess it may not be necessary to purchase Genie + in the off peak periods but for most on here that have children or work in schools the experience will be a lot worse without Genie + unless you enjoy 60 minute queues in 90 degree heat
Yeah but you don't know that. It will be interesting to see how this works over Thanksgiving and Christmas. That'll give a good indication of how this will impact people going at Easter or Summer.
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It's not like it's going to affect you anyway 😋
We plan to stay 5 nights at the end of July. Possibly deluxe to benefit from the extra evening hours if our schedule fits. Most of our holiday will be at Universal etc
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We plan to stay 5 nights at the end of July. Possibly deluxe to benefit from the extra evening hours if our schedule fits. Most of our holiday will be at Universal etc
Oops sorry I mixed you up with cornishfrogboy!
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Old 9 Oct 21, 11:43 AM  
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Exactly!

Edit: omg I now have all my Mickey heads! 😁
Congratulations, I've just noticed I also completed the set with my previous post yay for us
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You fools! They clearly said they carried out surveys and this is what we all wanted. I can only assume you are struggling with the sheer amount of “flexibility” ...
This concerns me. The lovely thing about the days of no phones/ paper fastpasses/ park hopping was the ease and spontaneity of it. This new flexibility sounds even more mental stress and homephone-work than fastpass+ and less 'stopping and smelling the roses' (which was always part of the magic of a Disney holiday for me - right from childhood).

I feel like Disney started down a rabbit hole with the move from fastpass to fastpass+ and, now, they're having to tie themselves up in knots.

I might feel better about the financial side of Genie+, if Disney hadn't, for a while now, been raising prices so much across the board ($25 for a 50th anniversary chocolate bar anyone? ) and, at the same time, been removing things previously included (service and entertainment, details big and small).


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IÂ’m struggling with the concept that all this needs to be done at 7am if your on site.
If you donÂ’t does this mean availability may be gone by mid morning!
I know! ...Wake up early to an alarm on your holiday and compete with thousands of others for a 'chance' of paying to get a slot - it sounds more like booking Christmas supermarket deliveries than a magical escape.

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... If they offered a ticket with all this built-in (maybe only one go each on the headliners) at a known price I might be able to justify it, but IÂ’m not a fan of all these on-the-day variables at all.
That sounds more relaxing to me.

Even more than FP+ I feel this new system could make it difficult for one-time visitors and/or those new to Disney.
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Do you know what I actually don't think it's all that bad, yes the tickets are expensive but I think I will be willing to pay for the base service. Even as a family of 6.

Compare it to Alton towers and it's actually very reasonable.

Alton towers Charge up to £130 for fast pass per person.
So I don't think I begrudge $15 to much
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True for the UK but also Disneyworld.eu sell 10 day ticket packages. So for customers outside of the USA they are selling themselves as a long term vacation destination.
Even so, the longhaul international market makes up a tiny fraction of their visitor base. I honestly forget they have a European marketing presence because European visitors to Orlando don't even rank in the top tourists lists. Less than 1%. Even us Brits are only 2%.

90-95% of their customers aren't going for a long trip. And that's the market they're going to make their decisions around. Does it suck for the Brits using all 14 days of their tickets who want to ride lots of attractions? Yes, absolutely. Do WDW care? No, no really. They're getting their money from the domestic market.

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Originally Posted by Whoppery5k View Post
Do you know what I actually don't think it's all that bad, yes the tickets are expensive but I think I will be willing to pay for the base service. Even as a family of 6.

Compare it to Alton towers and it's actually very reasonable.

Alton towers Charge up to £130 for fast pass per person.
So I don't think I begrudge $15 to much
It would be better if disney charged the 150 per person. When this started the worst case was the pricing they have come out with.

Its just right to tempt nearly everyone atleast once.

If say tron is open. Standby is at 160 mins the kids are to small and your other half wants to go home. $15 is affordable even if it means no dole whip
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