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Old 26 Nov 21, 06:18 PM  
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Little update from my last..

So at this present time its 12pm in Orlando.

Of the "decent" rides, the only one offering any LL bookings:

Toy Story Mania - 2.55
Tower of Terror - 7:05pm

So one slot is 7 hours away, and both aren't even as busy when you compare it to SDD/Smugglers Run/RNR..

From my current conclusion is, frankly Genie+ in HS is a white elephant and probably not worth it. I've kept refreshing as suggested and there hasn't been much movement
Just to add to this. We went to HS this morning for early entry. We arrived at 8.30am and rode MMRR x 2, TSMM x 2 plus ToT all before 10.30am with no Genie+

A few days ago we arrived at 8.30am and rode MMRR, TSMM, had breakfast, watched Beauty and the beast, rode ToT, had a wander around and looked in the shops then watched Frozen Singalong all before 1pm.

We have heard several families complaining that they set their alarm to book LL rides at 7am, a morning time comes up but by the time the6 click through itís a late afternoon time and they are out at 8am with little ones and no LL rides until late afternoon which is no use to them. Iím sure thereís ways to make it work, but having been here for 10 days now we have found the best way for us is early entry, leave at lunchtime, back to the resort for swimming/rest an£ then out in the evening again. We will pay for RotR at Xmas and possibly 1 or 2 others but wonít bother with Genie+ at all.
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Old 26 Nov 21, 06:19 PM  
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I have read a complaint email sent to WDW by a seasoned WDW goer on another fan board.
Their main problems -

7 am wakeups. Having to wakeup all the family to decide which rides to choose because of lack of G+ and ILL availability.
Stressful and exhausting not what you want to do on holiday.
Lack of G+ availability after 10am
Lots of glitches - email codes and logging out and back in.
The G+ times change while in the process of booking from 9am to 5pm
ROTR/FOP ILL not available at 7am.
Difficulty with park hopping/dining reservations when reserving G+ selections.
Being on the phone all day.
They won't be back until things have changed.

Pretty much all my concerns.
I hadn't really stopped to think about the first point. To be there for 7am you'd probably have to get up a fair bit earlier so around 0630. On a vacation its the last thing you want to do
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Old 26 Nov 21, 06:20 PM  
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Just to add to this. We went to HS this morning for early entry. We arrived at 8.30am and rode MMRR x 2, TSMM x 2 plus ToT all before 10.30am with no Genie+

A few days ago we arrived at 8.30am and rode MMRR, TSMM, had breakfast, watched Beauty and the beast, rode ToT, had a wander around and looked in the shops then watched Frozen Singalong all before 1pm.

We have heard several families complaining that they set their alarm to book LL rides at 7am, a morning time comes up but by the time the6 click through itís a late afternoon time and they are out at 8am with little ones and no LL rides until late afternoon which is no use to them. Iím sure thereís ways to make it work, but having been here for 10 days now we have found the best way for us is early entry, leave at lunchtime, back to the resort for swimming/rest an£ then out in the evening again. We will pay for RotR at Xmas and possibly 1 or 2 others but wonít bother with Genie+ at all.
Thanks for the real world update. Sounds like the park opening/early entrance strategy still works, even at one of the busiest times of the year. Hope you have a lvely time for the rest of your trip
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Old 26 Nov 21, 06:23 PM  
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It seems like MK has the most value, purely because of the most attractions. To get the most of Genie+ you either need to be up and booking from 7am, or visit on a mid-busy day. It seems if it is a very busy day (like this week when most parks are at capacity), you are going to get a lot less rides done. If you also then visit at a quiet time, then it's hardly worth using Genie+.
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Thanks for the real world update. Sounds like the park opening/early entrance strategy still works, even at one of the busiest times of the year. Hope you have a lvely time for the rest of your trip
Thank you

We have just adjusted our body clocks half way between ĎU.K. timeí and ĎUS lazy daysí time (which is when we used to wake up and go out when we came here on holiday), so that we are up and out early and go to bed early. Itís only early if you tell yourself it is 😉 🤣
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I hadn't really stopped to think about the first point. To be there for 7am you'd probably have to get up a fair bit earlier so around 0630. On a vacation its the last thing you want to do
We never stayed in bed later than 5am last time, our body clocks never seemed to adjust!
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Old 26 Nov 21, 07:22 PM  
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I will be trying out genie plus on the first few days of our trip this week, starting Wednesday. I have a U.K. 14 day ultimate but going for 3 weeks so bought a 6 day from undercover tourist for the price of 4 days including genie plus. I will see how it goes starting on Wednesday and let you know. Hopefully thanksgiving crowds may have subsided by then.
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Old 26 Nov 21, 07:24 PM  
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One way to help would be to make it that you have to be in the park to make your first LL choice.

Thatís the way it was with MaxPass in DL and Iím surprised they didnít continue that.
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This might be an unpopular opinion but as you all know I love controversy.

It seems not even being on property is much of an advantage, with even 7am being a sell out..

So, in the interests of fairness, how about Disney put a cap on the amount of independent lightning lane purchases per user? My train of thought is if you have a family who over say 14 days has bagged ROTR 3 times, whilst their next door neighbour who is also here for 14 nights has failed 3 times in a row, thats not entirely fair.

It certainly would help those experience it for the first time as opposed to the usual vloggers/regular visitors to the park also.

I personally think 1 per 7 days is certainly fair, as it would at least potentially allow others to enjoy the magic.
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Just to add to this. We went to HS this morning for early entry. We arrived at 8.30am and rode MMRR x 2, TSMM x 2 plus ToT all before 10.30am with no Genie+

A few days ago we arrived at 8.30am and rode MMRR, TSMM, had breakfast, watched Beauty and the beast, rode ToT, had a wander around and looked in the shops then watched Frozen Singalong all before 1pm.

We have heard several families complaining that they set their alarm to book LL rides at 7am, a morning time comes up but by the time the6 click through itís a late afternoon time and they are out at 8am with little ones and no LL rides until late afternoon which is no use to them. Iím sure thereís ways to make it work, but having been here for 10 days now we have found the best way for us is early entry, leave at lunchtime, back to the resort for swimming/rest an£ then out in the evening again. We will pay for RotR at Xmas and possibly 1 or 2 others but wonít bother with Genie+ at all.
And that is how we have done parks throughout our ten vacations and counting. It really is not that difficult to get up early!

We are always, but always there at ropedrop and with objectives in mind.

We are generally out by lunchtime/early afternoon as the hordes arrive, taking advantage of either water parks or other activities before a Ďhappy hourí planned early dinner, where discounts are considerable.

We sometimes return to parks around 1830-1900 as the hordes are leaving and thus, generally hit the big rides again and until closing.
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