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Old 11 Jan 21, 05:17 PM  
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So DM went into residential care this afternoon.
This all happened very quickly however we all knew, none more so than mother, that something had to happen
She was tested for covid on Saturday, got the negative result this morning, the home had to get the all clear from someone? infection control? and we took her in this afternoon.
She has to self isolate for 2 weeks but will still have contact with the carers.
She has a phone in her room so we can keep in touch.
So everything happened very quickly and I really hope it's for the best.
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Old 11 Jan 21, 08:23 PM  
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Originally Posted by Feebee2 View Post
So DM went into residential care this afternoon.
This all happened very quickly however we all knew, none more so than mother, that something had to happen
She was tested for covid on Saturday, got the negative result this morning, the home had to get the all clear from someone? infection control? and we took her in this afternoon.
She has to self isolate for 2 weeks but will still have contact with the carers.
She has a phone in her room so we can keep in touch.
So everything happened very quickly and I really hope it's for the best.
Good luck to her.

We spoken to what feels like every government agency there is today 😂 and we are going to try and keep her hanging on for a few more weeks in the hope that she can avoid the two week isolation period - she won’t understand that at all

Hoping the homes are all vaccinated in the very near future...
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Old 12 Jan 21, 08:55 AM  
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If someone has lost capacity, you can apply to the court of protection to become thier deputy sonyou can make choices on thier behalf.(this will cost money to do)

You can also apply to the dwp to become appointee so that they communicate directly with you about her pensions and benefits. This is free of charge.

The local authority I work for when it comes to financial assessments for care have the following basic rules:

If a person has over 23,250 in capital they are fully self funding.

If a person has between 14,250 and 23,250 a % of this will be used to pay towards care (this is called tariff income and is £1 per 250 pounds or part of ) cases are reviewed annually untill the 14,250 is reached. Then the capital is not taken into account against any assessment.

When going into long term care all a persons finances are looked at. Anything in thier name, and 50% of anything in a joiny name is taken into account.

A house will be disregarded if a spouse/partnernis living there, or an adult child IF they can prove they have lived there for a substantial amount of time. Details of a property are needednin any case so it can be offically disregarded.

A house can be kept and rented out, but the rent is then part of the persons in cares income and will be used for assessment. The "rules" around deferred payment agreements are very complex and should be duscussed with the person at the local authority who deals with this. We constanly have social workers checking thinhs to do with the contribution assessment with us as they di not do the assessments and gather the info. They do a preliminary assessment for care which includes if a finacial assessment is needed. This is very different to the actual financial assessment. Families often think they have done the assessment and are then confused and sometimes angry at being asked to provide detailed information.

If the person left living in the house dies or goes into care themselves, then a charge can be placed againdt the property (called a deferred payment)but you do not have to do this, however the person in care is then liable for the full cost of care. There can be cases of course where oart of the house is owned/inherited by others before care home admission so these cases need the legal paperwork (copies of wills/trusts etc) to verify this and then a charge is able to be out against the % of ownership.

When the local authority assesses for a contribution, a persons income always makes up the first part of the cost of care. The council will then contributr up to a certain banded amount. If the cost of care is still over the sum ofnthese two parts, a third party top uo may be payable. This cannot be from the clients own money.

Some benefits such as attendance allowance may still be paid fornthe forst four weeks of living in a care home, then they stop. Others can continue.

Our authority allows a contribution towards house hold running costs still for the first four weeks only. After that they cannot pay towards the upkeep of a house they do not live in anymore.

In some cases a persons private pension maybe halved sonthat a spouse still in the marital home can use this towards bills.

All of this is on an individual basis and it is means tested.

We can go back as far as five years to check for movement of money /gifting of money to avoid paying for care. If it is deemed this has happened it will be classed as deliberate deprivation and the case assessed as if they still have that money.

A person will be left with just under £30 a week when they have had thier assessment for personal allowance. This is to buy toiletries / newspapers etc.

Different set of guidelines apply for paying for care at a persons own home, but the threshold levels for tariff income etc are the same.

All proof of oncome and expenditure has to be provided for verification such as copies of bank statements (again up to 5 years can be requested) and other forms of records (such as personally drawn up spreadsheets) are not accepted.

There wouldnt be much difference between local authorities as the figures are largely set by the government. So check withbyour social worker or more likely the team that will be doing the financial assessment as they will know the process much better/the figures than thensocial workers.

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