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Old 14 Jun 16, 01:26 PM  
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Originally Posted by Dazed View Post
At the top of the search box on the BA website it will default to United Kingdom when you open the site. Change that in the drop down box to Ireland and let it load. Then chose Dublin as your outbound airport. The rest is the same as booking a UK flight. Prices will be in Euros but there's a button to press for currency conversion.
Thanks, I'll try pricing up a flight.


Originally Posted by Cantcook View Post
It really helps if you know how to work the ITA Matrix. It's so handy when trying to price things like this with various options.
I suppose it would help if I even knew what an ITA Matrix was then, never mind how to work it Off to Google it now

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Old 14 Jun 16, 01:32 PM  
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so whats an ITA matrix then...
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Old 14 Jun 16, 01:40 PM  
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matrix.itasoftware/

It's a very handy website for checking flight prices with multiple options in one search.

It only produces live flight prices but you can't book through it. But it's so much quicker finding flights on there and then replicating those prices on the relevant airlines website or Expedia.

It's also very handy when you're flexible with dates and you can see a months worth of prices with one search.
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Old 14 Jun 16, 01:42 PM  
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Originally Posted by choccielover View Post
so whats an ITA matrix then...
It's just another airfare search site very similar to google flights (run by them)

It's useful because you can search 5 departure and 5 arrival airports in the same search.

I use and prefer google flights though.

matrix.itasoftware/
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Old 14 Jun 16, 01:50 PM  
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If you copy what I've done here, you'll get a rough idea of how it works. When you first go to the site press 'Advanced routing codes' so you get the two extra fields.



This search is basically saying that we are happy to depart from either Dublin or Amsterdam.

The next field tells it that we want to connect in London and then get a connecting flight with either Virgin Atlantic or British Airways.

The third field says we're happy to fly into Orlando or Tampa.

The fourth is saying we want to fly with either Virgin Atlantic or British Airways then connecting in London.

The rest should be self explanatory. I've told it I want to see a calendar of dates and my holdiday could be between 10 and 16 nights. Finally, I've said Business Class fares only. It then produces this calendar where you can see the cheapest days to fly. I used September as an example:

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Old 14 Jun 16, 02:18 PM  
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Very interesting thread;

How would I go about booking this? Ignore the changes between airports and they are just examples.

Fare 1: Carrier VS ZEUSL DUB to ORL (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I, Z
Covers DUB-LHR (Business), LGW-MCO (Business)
£376.68
Fare 2: Carrier VS ZEUSL ORL to DUB (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z, I
Covers MCO-LGW (Business), LHR-DUB (Business)
£376.68
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
£2.80
US Immigration Fee (XY)
£4.90
US Customs Fee (YC)
£3.90
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
£35.19
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£194.20
US International Arrival Tax (US)
£12.50
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP)
£10.80
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£4.80
US International Departure Tax (US)
£12.50
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
£3.90
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
£3.20
Subtotal per passenger
£1,041.69
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
£1,041.6




Compared to this!

Fare 1: Carrier VS ZL2GBL LON to ORL (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers LGW-MCO (Business)
£1,137.50
Fare 2: Carrier VS ZL2GBL ORL to LON (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers MCO-LGW (Business)
£1,137.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
£2.80
US Immigration Fee (XY)
£4.90
US Customs Fee (YC)
£3.90
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
£12.72
United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty (GB)
£146.00
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£249.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
£12.50
US International Departure Tax (US)
£12.50
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
£3.90
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
£3.20
Subtotal per passenger
£2,726.42
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
£2,726.4
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Old 14 Jun 16, 02:29 PM  
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Originally Posted by Hayley&Gareth View Post
Very interesting thread;

How would I go about booking this? Ignore the changes between airports and they are just examples.

Fare 1: Carrier VS ZEUSL DUB to ORL (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I, Z
Covers DUB-LHR (Business), LGW-MCO (Business)
£376.68
Fare 2: Carrier VS ZEUSL ORL to DUB (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z, I
Covers MCO-LGW (Business), LHR-DUB (Business)
£376.68
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
£2.80
US Immigration Fee (XY)
£4.90
US Customs Fee (YC)
£3.90
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
£35.19
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£194.20
US International Arrival Tax (US)
£12.50
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP)
£10.80
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£4.80
US International Departure Tax (US)
£12.50
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
£3.90
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
£3.20
Subtotal per passenger
£1,041.69
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
£1,041.6




Compared to this!

Fare 1: Carrier VS ZL2GBL LON to ORL (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers LGW-MCO (Business)
£1,137.50
Fare 2: Carrier VS ZL2GBL ORL to LON (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers MCO-LGW (Business)
£1,137.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
£2.80
US Immigration Fee (XY)
£4.90
US Customs Fee (YC)
£3.90
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
£12.72
United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty (GB)
£146.00
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£249.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
£12.50
US International Departure Tax (US)
£12.50
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
£3.90
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
£3.20
Subtotal per passenger
£2,726.42
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
£2,726.4
You didn't include dates so quite hard to replicate exactly but this is pretty much it:

expedia/Flights-Se...VS&mode=search

As I'm flexible on dates, I like to use ITA Matrix for the month view, then I just put those dates into Expedia.

On Expedia, departing airport as DUB, arriving airport as MCO, preferred airline as Virgin Atlantic (as per your example) and then class to business. Just make sure you don't have 'direct only' checked.
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Old 14 Jun 16, 02:36 PM  
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thank you! We held off our May trip this year because I can't stand anything but Business... this gives more options at-least!
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Old 14 Jun 16, 03:36 PM  
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We are doing our first Boomerang with BA business , first time with BA . £816 each , DUB-LGW-MCO and MCO-LGW-LHR-DUB . Am so excited
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Old 14 Jun 16, 03:38 PM  
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Originally Posted by Hayley&Gareth View Post
Very interesting thread;

How would I go about booking this? Ignore the changes between airports and they are just examples.

Fare 1: Carrier VS ZEUSL DUB to ORL (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I, Z
Covers DUB-LHR (Business), LGW-MCO (Business)
£376.68
Fare 2: Carrier VS ZEUSL ORL to DUB (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z, I
Covers MCO-LGW (Business), LHR-DUB (Business)
£376.68
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
£2.80
US Immigration Fee (XY)
£4.90
US Customs Fee (YC)
£3.90
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
£35.19
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£194.20
US International Arrival Tax (US)
£12.50
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP)
£10.80
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£4.80
US International Departure Tax (US)
£12.50
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
£3.90
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
£3.20
Subtotal per passenger
£1,041.69
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
£1,041.6




Compared to this!

Fare 1: Carrier VS ZL2GBL LON to ORL (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers LGW-MCO (Business)
£1,137.50
Fare 2: Carrier VS ZL2GBL ORL to LON (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers MCO-LGW (Business)
£1,137.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
£2.80
US Immigration Fee (XY)
£4.90
US Customs Fee (YC)
£3.90
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
£12.72
United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty (GB)
£146.00
VS YQ surcharge (YQ)
£249.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
£12.50
US International Departure Tax (US)
£12.50
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
£3.90
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
£3.20
Subtotal per passenger
£2,726.42
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
£2,726.4
When are you wanting to go ?
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