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Old 25 Oct 21, 03:08 PM  
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Minimum wage rise

For those aged 23 it’s rising to £9.50 and those aged 21-22 it goes up to £9.18.
For those who are in lower paid jobs this is good news for a change .
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Old 25 Oct 21, 03:56 PM  
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Yes certainly good news 👍
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I am happy for people getting pay rises, they are lovely. But the knock on effect for some businesses could actually close them.
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Originally Posted by sophiepop View Post
I am happy for people getting pay rises, they are lovely. But the knock on effect for some businesses could actually close them.
Better they close than having tax payers subsidising their staffs wages with tax credits
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Old 25 Oct 21, 06:19 PM  
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Better they close than having tax payers subsidising their staffs wages with tax credits
Guess you feel the same about furlough, covid grants etc..
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Old 25 Oct 21, 06:25 PM  
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Guess you feel the same about furlough, covid grants etc..
That was temporary. For the last 20 years businesses have benefited from the taxman supplementing very low wages. It cannot be right that someone working 40 hours a week still needs tax credits to survive.
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Better they close than having tax payers subsidising their staffs wages with tax credits
Ah yes , close some firms so people don’t have jobs and the taxpayer has to pay all their income rather than just a small portion of it
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What about those who have worked hard and had payrises and promotions (son's friend's girlfriend who works in a supermarket ) to earn just about that now.
That wipes out her advantage.
I guess there are loads in this position in the lower paid jobs who work bloomin' hard to try to go up the ranks and suddenly all the staff are at the same pay level.
I doubt companies are going to be able to afford to increase all of the promoted staff's wages to the same advantage it was before.
It's those I feel for.
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That wipes out her advantage.
I guess there are loads in this position in the lower paid jobs who work bloomin' hard to try to go up the ranks and suddenly all the staff are at the same pay level.
I doubt companies are going to be able to afford to increase all of the promoted staff's wages to the same advantage it was before.
It's those I feel for.
If the advantage of 'moving up the ranks' is wiped out by a small increase in minimum wage, it's a tough realisation they have not really 'moved up the ranks' at all.
Slight pay rises for taking on extra responsibility or a heavier workload often turn out to be more imagined than real.

Keeping lowest paid workers on poverty pay to protect differentials belongs to the Victorian mill owners.
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Originally Posted by Pino_Spetzberg View Post
If the advantage of 'moving up the ranks' is wiped out by a small increase in minimum wage, it's a tough realisation they have not really 'moved up the ranks' at all.
Slight pay rises for taking on extra responsibility or a heavier workload often turn out to be more imagined than real.

Keeping lowest paid workers on poverty pay to protect differentials belongs to the Victorian mill owners.
She walks our dogs and works part time there, and was having a little moan. Luckily for her and her boyfriend (our son's friend) they are both graduating next year from Uni as Radiologists so won't be affected long term.
She works there part time as I say, but there are obviously full time employees there working beside her doing the best they can to get on in the company, and I do feel for them, as well as other low paid workers in other employment roles
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