sealed kitchen cabinets? (and general kitchen design ideas)

[wanye]

anyone know if sealed kitchen cabinets are a thing or not? looking at getting a new kitchen, but currently sick of the condensation that gets inside the cupboard, which get my spice jars all moist, ruining the contents

and i got the EL BULLI cookbook collection, and would like to store it (and my other cookbooks) in the kitchen too if possible, but they need protecting! can't let my works of art sit in a humid cupboard when not in use!

i'm thinking some sort of seal like you get on a fridge door?

if i can get stainless steel cabinets, even better!

also, what single kitchen fitting is the best thing you've ever bought, and wonder how you managed without it previously? i'm thinking pull out corner units for ease of access, and a thin vertical pull-out cupboard for spices and unevenly-sized jars/packs of stuff that usually live on top of my cupboards...

so far my list of things to include are...

-gas hob with wok central wok burner
-two full size electric oven/grills above waist height. possibly an anova precision oven for steaming/proofing/sous vide cooking and a normal one
-garbage disposal unit for the sink. possibly a fizzy/boiling water tap too
-double sink with one of them shower attachment style water guns for rinsing
-proper externally-vented fan above the hob - something quiet but really powerful. any suggestions? sick of setting the alarms off when searing steak!
-more electric sockets than i know what to do with

any other stuff i should be looking at?

[Disney Bear]

Best thing we have is a gas burner with wok burner on the side - so that we can use more than one burner at a time. Very large sink so we can easily wash large baking trays. Love our pull out larder. Pan draws. Boiling water and filled water tap. More electric sockets than the fitters though useful - we use them all. USB connects in the plug sockets. As much worktop space as you can get. We have corner carousel cupboards - great for access but you lose a lot of space - which made us though stuff out rather than just shove it in the back.

My tip would be to check cupboard depths and draw depths - amazing difference on the market.

[wanye]

ooh, i like this!

cavendishequipment/

pan and baking tray storage. what clever innovations have there been in recent years? i currently stack the saucepans inside one another, and the trays are stored on the shelf underneath using an ikea pot lid holder thing: ikea/gb/en/p/variera...teel-70154800/

the larger pots (my cast iron kit) live on the windowsill at the moment, i'm thinking several extra deep drawers to stick all the pans and larger kitchen gadgets that don't need to be out all the time... so large/heavy items all get stored near the ground, leaving the higher cupboards for food and items that don't weigh too much. sound reasonable?

[Floridarules]

Never heard of sealed units, sorry

Definitely also worth getting an idea of prices too, especially for all the gadgets as the prices can be eye watering. Example- the recycling bins that you see in kitchens now with different bins etc can be in excess of Ł450 😳 and Hot Tap circa Ł900.

Team this with fridge, oven, dishwasher, job, extractor, coffee machine, boiling tap and worktop plus fitting etc etc - it’s very easy to see why the price mounts.

I mention the bin because this genuinely astounds me.

For me, my Hot tap is perfect 🤩

[munmun]

Originally Posted by wanye

anyone know if sealed kitchen cabinets are a thing or not? looking at getting a new kitchen, but currently sick of the condensation that gets inside the cupboard, which get my spice jars all moist, ruining the contents

and i got the EL BULLI cookbook collection, and would like to store it (and my other cookbooks) in the kitchen too if possible, but they need protecting! can't let my works of art sit in a humid cupboard when not in use!

i'm thinking some sort of seal like you get on a fridge door?

if i can get stainless steel cabinets, even better!

also, what single kitchen fitting is the best thing you've ever bought, and wonder how you managed without it previously? i'm thinking pull out corner units for ease of access, and a thin vertical pull-out cupboard for spices and unevenly-sized jars/packs of stuff that usually live on top of my cupboards...

so far my list of things to include are...

-gas hob with wok central wok burner
-two full size electric oven/grills above waist height. possibly an anova precision oven for steaming/proofing/sous vide cooking and a normal one
-garbage disposal unit for the sink. possibly a fizzy/boiling water tap too
-double sink with one of them shower attachment style water guns for rinsing
-proper externally-vented fan above the hob - something quiet but really powerful. any suggestions? sick of setting the alarms off when searing steak!
-more electric sockets than i know what to do with

any other stuff i should be looking at?

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Honestly, I dont think you need sealed cupboards you need to sort out the damp/condensation in the kitchen so it doesnt occur.

[wanye]

dont want an overly expensive bin with multiple compartments, just a largeish (40l +) general waste bin, and a carrier bag on the wall in the garage next to the kitchen door is fine... cans and recyclables go in the carrier bag, then get dropped into the main bin outside when it starts getting full

might just sack off the hot water tap in favour of a nice shower head type one and a decent temperature controlled kettle unless i can get one on sale somewhere... dont mind paying a few hundred, but nearly a grand is a bit excessive!

fridge/freezer are fine - they are in the garage and i've gotten used to going down there for stuff... although a small wine/can fridge might be a possibility, and i've already got a brand new (used once) internal dishwasher sat in my garage that i can fit (a friend got it with their new build house and never used it, so took it out and used it as cupboard space)

[wanye]

Originally Posted by munmun

Honestly, I dont think you need sealed cupboards you need to sort out the damp/condensation in the kitchen so it doesnt occur.

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theres no central heating downstairs in the kitchen, and the current cooker vent does sod-all, but noisily, which is why i want a decent extractor unit that isnt too noisy going out the wall. that would reduce a good chunk of the humidity down there

might see what options there are for built in dehumidifiers... are those a thing too?

but theres got to be somewhere that does sealed cabinets, right? surey i'm not the only person who thinks this is a good idea?! even if i have to get magnetic fridge seal stuff and do it myself! (at least on the cupboards that matter. im not stressed about the humidity in my pan cupboards!)

[hvasey]

There’s something wrong with your kitchen if things are getting damp in cupboards!
We never got around to having our extractor fitted, my dry goods go in a cupboard above/ to the right of the hob and there has never been an issue with moisture in the cupboards.
I wish we’d not bothered with a wok burner, I would rather have the work surface space. You couldn’t pay me to have a boiling water tap, the thought of one makes me feel a bit queasy tbh.
I’d simply keep my spices in a plastic seal-lidded box in a cuboard in your situation.

[munmun]

Originally Posted by wanye

theres no central heating downstairs in the kitchen, and the current cooker vent does sod-all, but noisily, which is why i want a decent extractor unit that isnt too noisy going out the wall. that would reduce a good chunk of the humidity down there

might see what options there are for built in dehumidifiers... are those a thing too?

but theres got to be somewhere that does sealed cabinets, right? surey i'm not the only person who thinks this is a good idea?! even if i have to get magnetic fridge seal stuff and do it myself! (at least on the cupboards that matter. im not stressed about the humidity in my pan cupboards!)

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I have had a trickle vent extractor fitted in the bathroom of one of my rental properties. It vents continuously but very gently but keeps air moving, that might help but honestly I would get a damp specialist to check the humidity in the air and check the walls.

I have lived in houses with unheated kitchens and never had damp issues with food and I simply dont think there is a demand for sealed kitchen cupboards.

You are trying to solve the problem in the wrong way, get to the root of the problem first.

[Guest]

I agree with the others , very strange issue you have .
I’ve never had damp cupboards or an overly humid kitchen.
Maybe get a fan put into the wall or something to draw the moist air out?