What is Genie?

[Nimbus]

Originally Posted by novocastrian

so for $45 a day for the 3 of us we can get genie+ which in effect replaces FP

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Yes, although this is only for the Tier 2 rides. There will be a couple of rides in each park that won't be included in Genie+ and you will have to pay separately to skip the line for those.

Originally Posted by novocastrian

so say we go 7 days to disney in our 2 weeks another $315 to find on top of the actual ticket prices

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Yes, but only if you want to purchase Genie+ on each of your 7 days. You may only want to pay for it once for each of the parks - so "only" another $180 to find. Or you may not bother with it at all and decide just to join the standby queues of the Tier 2 rides.

Originally Posted by novocastrian

there is also no guarentee how many Lightening Line passes you will get in day for your $15 each ? you could literally be unlucky and get a couple before the rest go like fastpass + used to ?

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Correct, there is no guarantee on how many LL passes you will get with your Genie+. It could be zero, although this is highly unlikely. It could be just 2 or 3. It could be a dozen or more.

It depends on a lot of things: how busy the park is, how many other people have paid for Genie+, which rides you choose to get LL passes for, etc.

Back when Fastpass+ was a thing, there used to be fastpasses available for some of the rides on the day. This was in addition to the 3 you could book beforehand. And that was when fastpasses were free and therefore more people were probably using and booking them. I would therefore expect slightly more availability with Genie+ than the old fastpass+ system.

I would guess that in an average 8 hour day, you will generally be able to book at least 4 LL passes. Probably more on a good day.

Originally Posted by novocastrian

we would also 100% have to use a phone app all day for this... there is no alternative for non smart phone owners

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They've got rid of the old fastpass kiosks that possibly could've been repurposed for this new system. So, yes, it looks like it'll all be done via the app on a smart device. If you don't have a smart phone then you'll just have to queue up the old fashioned way.

[CJC]

We only plan to go to one park buying a 1 day ticket.
Can we purchase Genie+ and IAS for the same day to get maximum chance of doing all the rides?

[loldis]

Originally Posted by CJC

We only plan to go to one park buying a 1 day ticket.
Can we purchase Genie+ and IAS for the same day to get maximum chance of doing all the rides?

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Yes you can, but note there's a 2 passes per day limit on IAS. There shouldn't be more than 2 attractions on IAS so you should be able to do them once each, but we don't have the list yet.