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13 Nov 19, 01:10 PM |
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Well you could base it on the posts in this thread, think there are about 7 cases of issues after the jab (not saying theyve got flu from it but issues)
Or i could base it on the pharmacist in tesco where my wife had it and went back to speak to them after coming out in a rash. Or the GP whom my wife visited. Do i need scientific evidence for such a broad statement as... "Seems this years jab is causing some issues on delivery" Probably not.
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13 Nov 19, 03:14 PM |
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After having flu when my youngest was a baby and he wouldn't go to anyone else I always get the jab sore arm and sniffy nose is well worth it.
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13 Nov 19, 03:34 PM |
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Sorry but all you have is small sample anecdote. My reference point is national and yes as far as I am concerned yes you do need scientific evidence if you are going to scare monger.
For many people the flu jab is vital. However many people are also scared of these things. They need the facts based on a national picture. People have gone on for years about various side effects they think they have had due to it. There is no conspiracy. Edited at 03:55 PM. |
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13 Nov 19, 03:52 PM |
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I have recently been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and I am taking methotrexate. I had to have a pneumonia jab as well as a flu jab and I was up all night with the shivers and excruciating pain in my joints. Both arms where sore but the flu one had a large red rash around it. Everything passed in just over 24 hours though and I put it down to my RA 😩
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13 Nov 19, 04:54 PM |
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I also take methotrexate and have had the flu jab (though not the pneumonia one). My consultant said the flu jab would be fine as it isn’t a live vaccine. I’m travelling to Asia at the end of the month to deliver training and was advised to check all the jabs were not live vaccines either. I had all of the vaccines on the same day and had no ill effects at all.
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13 Nov 19, 05:55 PM |
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Feel free to point out where i am scare mongering, pop in it a quote for me to see.
Quoting the pharmacist is not me scare mongering! Ive never said dont get it. Even the NHS themselves say there are side effects of the Flu jab with people. a mild fever, muscle aches, they admit that people may have an allergic reaction that can come on within minutes. Now ive seen people with allergic reactions, they come out in rashes, swellings, itches, hot to the touch... oh is that what i posted about earlier? But im the scare monger? Not the NHS who say the same thing. Ive not said there is a conspiracy.
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13 Nov 19, 06:17 PM |
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My daughter had her flu jab a couple of weeks ago and apart from the usual slightly sore arm for a day she had no reaction. I am due mine next week and will certainly be going. I had the flu 3 weeks ago and felt really rough, but I know it could have been very much worse.
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13 Nov 19, 06:30 PM |
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My arm was swollen and sore for a few days. I missed last year and suffered with pneumonia ended up in hospital so I will do anything to avoid a repeat. Hope you're feeling better now.
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13 Nov 19, 09:51 PM |
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But these side effects can happen with ANY injection. And you're told this BEFORE and after you receive the injections.
Children get side effects from their childhood injections, babies can be cranky for days afterwards, some can even get runny nappies a few days afterwards. But these are NORMAL effects as its signs of your body producing antibodies trying to fight off an unknown substance put into our bodies. Some people get effects, some people dont. But it's certainly no reason to not get an injection if it's going to keep us safe and alive. Regarding your quote of allergies. Patients are asked if they have any known allergies to eggs or chicken or any other allergies. I always have to tell them I have a nickel allergy as they may have to use a different type of needle for me. |
13 Nov 19, 09:51 PM |
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Certainly. Here is what you posted
Seems this years jab is causing some issues on delivery There is no evidence for that statement at all. The anecdotes of a few people does not mean thereis an issue with the jag this year. To suggest that there is a problem with no properly researched evidence is scare mongering. I am now leaving this discussion. |
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