Just back - and won’t be returning to Disney…

[Rocking Ewok]

What are those wait time levels measured in? Would be interested to know, wait times are only part of the story however.

While reducing I can tell you that wait times and how crowded the parks have been has felt a lot more than previously. Only last weekend was when I noticed it was easing off a bit, based on the last 14 days.

Would I say the crowds spoiled it, no (busy crowds are expected and more so with the pent up demand) but you can certainly see the pressures on other elements.

[Nimbus]

Originally Posted by Rocking Ewok

What are those wait time levels measured in? Would be interested to know, wait times are only part of the story however.

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I don't know the details. However, I believe they are a relative level normalised to the maximum wait level over the last 12 months. That is, the maximum peak wait time across the park over the last 12 months is found, this is set to 10, and then all the other wait times are scaled according to this. I believe it's something of a logarithmic scale as well.

These wait times levels are not meant to be compared to previous years. That's not their purpose. They show how wait times change over shorter periods - weeks and months.

So the above graphs show that over the last month wait times have slowly reduced at the two parks (I think the same applies to Epcot but AK hasn't seen any reduction). Pretty much all websites use wait times to measure crowd levels - because Disney doesn't provide guest number data. So that's the only thing we can use that isn't subjective. And, for most people, it's wait times they are mostly interested in.

Originally Posted by Rocking Ewok

While reducing I can tell you that wait times and how crowded the parks have been has felt a lot more than previously. Only last weekend was when I noticed it was easing off a bit, based on the last 14 days.

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Yes, that's sort of what I said. Wait times this last week are lower than previous weeks. And two weeks ago they were lower than they were 4 weeks ago, etc.

And, yes, in general the crowds are greater this year than in previous years. That was esecially true in January and February when crowd levels were much higher than normal for that time of year. March was busy as it always is, but a bit busier this year than previous years. Beginning of April was busy because it was leading up to Easter (with Easter changing from year-to-year it can vary when the crowds start to ease). The crowds have now eased off, as you say.

[Pep]

Sorry for going off on a tangent but been seeing on the cruise forums that the recent cruises from the UK that have just gone on sale have been creating pandemonium, 13 hour plus unprecidented waits on the phone people scrambling to book their places and all at sky high prices! For those hoping things would calm down over disney products weather it be theme parks cruises or pop corn buckets think again!

[TooHotToTrot]

Originally Posted by thephantom

It is our last day tomorrow, we did Disney and Seaworld. I agree the costs have been extreme and whilst it is 'nice enough' it doesn't justify the cost. It cost me Ł20 for four ice lollys today !
Seaworld, Aquatica, Busch Gardens - wow they have gone to the dirt since we last visited in 2015.

We plan to come back to florida in 4-5 years and do Universal and then head off to St Petes or something but Disney has had our one and only family visit.

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Oh no, not Busch Gardens , that's one of my favourites.

[CuteLioness]

Originally Posted by TooHotToTrot

Oh no, not Busch Gardens , that's one of my favourites.

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I was in BG a few weeks ago - looked alright to me! 🤷🏻

[m2k00]

Originally Posted by TooHotToTrot

Oh no, not Busch Gardens , that's one of my favourites.

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I don't understood the comment that they have gone to the dogs. They have spent alot of money over the past 12 months at Both Seaworld and Busch Gardens on refurb projects including repainting many of the older coasters. The parks have prob never looked better for a long time in terms of presentation. The are continuing this as well, I know Busch Gardens entrance is getting upgraded currently and further projects across the parks.

[Pep]

Originally Posted by m2k00

I don't understood the comment that they have gone to the dogs. They have spent alot of money over the past 12 months at Both Seaworld and Busch Gardens on refurb projects including repainting many of the older coasters. The parks have prob never looked better for a long time in terms of presentation. The are continuing this as well, I know Busch Gardens entrance is getting upgraded currently and further projects across the parks.

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It's only like lots of other comments on here slating Disney even though they are constantly spending money putting new things in

[fiffio]

Think the reintroduction of the meet and greets in mid April will have made a big difference to the wait times, helps spread the crowds out no end.

[Pep]

Not been to BG for 30 years but SW certainly looked good in 2019

[Jaspercat10]

Thought BG was great at Xmas