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19 Nov 21, 08:33 AM |
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Join Date: Jun 16
Location: God's Own Country
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Thank you for this feedback which I have to say has left me very disappointed.
Am I understanding this correctly, you bought Genie+, got in at rope drop, and these were the Genie+ return times you managed to get? If so, for us it would be useless, and in fact I’d say the product is not fit for purpose. Imagine what it will be like at Christmas. Defenders of this system keep telling me it’s like Maxpass, but with Maxpass you weren’t waiting until late afternoon for ride bookings when getting in at rope drop. There wasn’t one ride disappearing at 7.02am with Maxpass, and at 7.01 blocking out all the remainder of the day if you booked it. If I’m understanding you correctly this has been massively oversold, so all the slots are being taken immediately for top rides? To give you an idea, with Fastpass in the run up to Christmas 2019 (this was before we were awarded unlimited free Fastpass after an issue when we moved to BLT 5 days in when we were still at Beach Club) we did every one of those rides on your list plus Alien Saucers, apart from Mickey Railway as that wasn’t open and not including Soarin as we did that multiple times other days. This includes ROTR. And we were back at the pool by 2pm, so you would have done them all without Genie+ and much earlier had the old Fastpass been in action. This is really, really terrible if this is how it will work going forward. in fact this means for us standby lines only or more likely not booking a headliner, as we don’t stay in the park that long and the Genie+ money grab will have badly damaged the experience for anyone who likes to get in early and leave around lunchtime if they want a headliner on Genie. Perhaps this is part of Bobs plan- keep you in the park buying extra meals and drinks? Plus if you want Star Wars now paying $60 for a family plus tax. All rides for Slinky gone by 7.02am- appalling it really is. Pure greed. It’s fairly quiet now. Imagine when all parks are at capacity and thousands more are buying it as unlimited numbers are being sold. I hate to think it- but will booking Rock and Roll Coaster or ToT also be locking us out for big chunks of the day when the parks are jam packed? In reality what I suspect Genie+ really means is unless you get lucky and get one of the best rides at park opening with thousands of others doing fastest finger first, you forget about riding those and use it for lesser rides with no doubt smaller queues anyway, so at least you get some use in the morning as Slinky is blocking it out. We will have to therefore probably miss Slinky entirely this trip to get any morning use out of Genie at all and queue for Mickey and Minnie. Looks like standby queues are untenable for ROTR too, so that one will be missed too as I’m not indulging in the madness of paying $60+ (will probably be surge priced when we go) to get on a ride. Under the cover of Covid, we have been sold many pups supposedly about guest experience, but this looks like one of the biggest swizzles of the lot. As I say though I’ll be reporting back at Christmas on this and I’m trying to stay positive.
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19 Nov 21, 09:11 AM |
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i will be watching for your trip report on this with interest Our plan is rope drop for big hitters, leave the parks after a few hours, chill out for the middle of the day, hit the parks hard till closing time. Basically our Mediterranean midday siesta plan
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19 Nov 21, 09:15 AM |
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Imagineer
Join Date: Jun 16
Location: God's Own Country
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If you like to do that in the afternoon that seems to work.
We have always been people who enter ropedrop, often go back to the DVC room (we have a full kitchen ) for lunch, odd lunch in the park. Chill by pool in afternoon, possibly out for shopping, often offsite meal. The sceptic in me says this has been purposely designed to keep people on site and spending in park (original reason for the soon to be dropped magical express).
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19 Nov 21, 09:22 AM |
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Imagineer
Join Date: May 03
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Not sure there's too much evidence of that!
Is it really quiet there right now? The YouTube algorithm did its thing and suggested this video to me yesterday and one of my takeaways were the crowds. These folk didn't have a great day with Genie+, but I think there's a fair amount of "user error" there, including their inability to access WiFi consistently and, presumably, do not have the ability to use cellular for data. Our own @Rebecca_ clearly had a far more productive day in the same park, around the same time (possibly even the very same day) which does go to show some research and a plan goes a long way to making it work for you. |
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19 Nov 21, 09:37 AM |
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From the vlogs I've watched of ropedrop vs G+ challenges (mainly Molly at Allears), it seems like you shouldn't really need to change how you like to do your days, or buy G+. Ropedrop still seems to be a good way of getting on rides before crowds without particularly long queues
For HS, Slinky seems to be the fly in the ointment for G+ as they go so fast which then triggers the 120 minute rule, and then you end up stacking for later in the day. We're not actually that bothered about Slinky, so I wonder what difference booking a different ride with a park opening time as your first one would make to getting the most out of G+ during a morning visit?
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19 Nov 21, 10:21 AM |
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I'd be interested in this too. Not too fussed about slinky so would be interested in how early slots would be without it. To be honest I haven't read too much about genie+ so far so need to. If we pay on the day at 7am would we be disadvantaged as we would need to pay for it before we could book a ride against those who have bought genie+ upfront? Not convinced we'll need it for all our days.
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19 Nov 21, 10:28 AM |
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VIP Dibber
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No disadvantage as it becomes available to buy at midnight, so you could buy it at 6.55am and be ready to book at 7am, exactly the same as those who've added it in advance
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19 Nov 21, 12:10 PM |
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Very Serious Dibber
Join Date: Jul 21
Location: Maidstone
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I think for whats its worth I will stump up the 4.99 a day O2 data roaming to avoid walking around like a roman coin collector with a metal detector trying to find some wifi signal.
My rough plan for my full day is 7am SDD and then at 9am hopefully purchase ROTR and MMRR. Rope drop probably Smugglers Run, and then work my way around after that. I am also at HS from about 3pm for my irst full day as we have a 50s prime time dinner reservation for 7.45 and ogas for 9.15, but I imagine me buying Genie Plus for that day would be pointless, unless of course I do it and it offers me SDD from the get go for like 4pm, as then it would make sense I guess. Who knows. |
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19 Nov 21, 12:31 PM |
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VIP Dibber
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Wifi everywhere, you won’t need to pay.
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19 Nov 21, 01:03 PM |
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Suitcases dusted off...
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Completely with you on the area of taking UK data with me. WiFi drop in Disney is notoriously bad at maintaining a connection - of course Disney will have configured it to timeout connections to ensure those trying to connect can get on as well.
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