Do you feel bad eating meat and animal products?

[Nicksgirl]

Originally Posted by Anne

I don't want to start anything. I just don't understand the waiting until January which is why I asked.

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Anne, I am a hypocrite, a real one and I admit it. This Christmas after a rotten year, we will have a turkey, especially for my wondeful rescue dogs, but I am not so stupid I don't realise the suffering that goes along with it. I turn a blind eye. I admit it... if I didn't feel guilty what sort of person does that make me ?
Next year, I have decided I will not... nothing goes to its death easily and I will not be the person who thinks this is okay. Especially when I have seen what happens to these animals.

Hyprocrite I am, I admit it, but for me its not meat, its not food, its lives that I take for two minutes on my tongue and I am not going to continue with this.

x

[MillyMoo]

People always ask me about Xmas dinner - what will you have for Xmas Dinner?! We have roasts now, I just have everything apart from the meat and I can honestly say I dont miss it at all!

[Nicksgirl]

Originally Posted by MillyMoo

People always ask me about Xmas dinner - what will you have for Xmas Dinner?! We have roasts now, I just have everything apart from the meat and I can honestly say I dont miss it at all!

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I Iove the parsnips, the roasties, the cabbage, the veg... my favourite now. xxx

[Bozza]

Originally Posted by Nicksgirl

I totally agree, but I think its outta sight outta mind. That's why I want to go vegan in January. I have seen the videos, I have seen the way animals are treated, I have seen them go to slaughter fighting and screaming. I think its time we decide, if we want to eat meat, go and watch it from being born, how it was raised and how it was slaughtered. If you can eat the meat then... its your choice...… I so want to give up. They have heartbeats, families, love, feelings etc...… In other countries they kill dogs in the most horrendous ways and we are up in arms...… its no difference if its a cow, they are the most gentle creatures and the most abused. xx

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I'm curious why you would wait until January is this is something that means that much to you?

As already posted, I saw a "field-to-plate" programme nearly 30 years ago and that was it there and then. I couldn't possibly have had five more weeks of eating meat, before implementing a decision that I'd made.

Edit: sorry, I've just seen you've just answered the same question.

[Bozza]

Originally Posted by MillyMoo

People always ask me about Xmas dinner - what will you have for Xmas Dinner?! We have roasts now, I just have everything apart from the meat and I can honestly say I dont miss it at all!

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If I'm being lazy - and I mean that about any roast dinner, not just Christmas dinner - then I'll throw a Quorn roast in the oven.

I don't mind meaty textures at all, but I know many veggies steer clear of meat substitutes.

If I'm not being lazy I'll make something like a mushroom wellington.

Regardless, with roast potatoes, parsnips, Yorkshires, cauliflower cheese, stuffing and the other vegetables I have, it's still a meal I enjoy very much!

[Island mamma]

I don't feel guilty but I'm very particular about the welfare standards of my meat and animal produce. So I keep my own hens because I can give them better welfare standards than free range hens kept commercially. At the end of the week I'll get my quarter bullock for the freezer that will be all our beef for the year, and it was raised two villages away so I know it was well looked after. I get a half pig from a work colleague and a lamb from a friend every year for the same reason. I often order vegetarian in restaurants, otherwise I'm that woman who asked where everything came from 🤣

[2point]

Originally Posted by Barmybuckle

There's a big difference between religious beliefs and facts.

You're right that buying other products, including plant based food/vegan products are possibly also causing suffering and death of humans all over the world. However, there's a difference between buying a steak that we know for sure caused suffering and death, and buying broccoli that might have caused suffering and death.

Have you ever seen footage from a slaughterhouse? Or how a dairy cow gets impregnated/raped and then has her calf taken away from her? It's disgusting, and I don't believe the vast majority of us would be able to do it.

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That's lovely.

I've made my choice and I'm happy with it.

My friend is a trained inseminator for cows, I'm sure he'll be amused to be called a rapist.

Take a step back and feel great about your choices, please stop trying to impose your choices on others. You will get the opposite reaction to what you expect.

[cornishfrogboy]

Originally Posted by Barmybuckle

Other than the fact it's a cow, what's the difference between a rapist and an inseminator?

Take a step back? This thread is about if you feel bad about eating animal-based products. If you've come here you should be prepared to have a debate on the topic. I'm not going around posting in every thread saying go vegan.

To be honest, I don't really understand this argument. You think it's wrong for me to apparently "impose" my choices on others, and yet you simultaneously believe it's OK to literally force others to die for the sake of your taste preference.

How do you suggest I should try and convince people that eating animal products is wrong? What would convince you and how do you justify eating animal products?

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Why do you feel that you should take it upon yourself to convince people anything?

Whilst I don’t doubt that many omnivores would respect your right to be vegan, it would seem that similar tolerance is not reciprocated by vegans towards omnivores.

Talking of omnivores and those involved in the production of meat produce as rapists and murderers etc etc etc is pretty much an attempt at a guilt trip on those with a contrary opinion to your own.

For what it’s worth, animals that are later eaten would not exist in the first place were it not for the future intention of consumption.

As for slaughterhouses etc, if I needed work, then there would be no issue. I would work in one. I could also work as a butcher, a fisherman or anything else. I have also shot pheasants and killed chickens.. but only for consumption.

[MillyMoo]

Originally Posted by Barmybuckle

How do you suggest I should try and convince people that eating animal products is wrong? What would convince you and how do you justify eating animal products?

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You don't need to, people can make their own choices

[SussexFamily]

Who fancies a Big Mac right now?