Just back - and won’t be returning to Disney…

[Lola]

Yep, DD and DSIL have cancelled a 2 week Beach Club visit as they just feel they don’t want to go as it is now. DD has been to WDW most years since she was 7 and it feels such a shame. We feel we had the best and now it’s over

[Twinklestar1]

We are here now and done all 4 parks this week. Got in all 4 on early entry and went for our ‘must do’ rides whilst booking a LL. It has actually worked well for us - for example Rise of the Resistance was a 25 minute wait and it was more like 15. The crowds are ok first thing but then you notice them building from around 11. We have been several times over Easter and so they are not really phasing us and we tend to leave around 4 ish.
We came with an expectation of busy parks, expensive food and merch and very different systems. We are still having a fabulous time and it is lovely to be in the magic.

[Moorlandman]

Originally Posted by ATO Jones

The nonsense of the above is that they used NGE (Magicband) as the reason that they could increase park capacity. All this while chronically underfunding the parks and failing to invest in badly needed rides... or even maintaining and not shuttering existing rides. And then, what they did build was so value engineered or compromised that it couldn't hold a candle to people eaters designed in the 50s..

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After 9/11, investment in WDW slumped until about 2014/15.

EPCOT & AK only really have three star attractions which means massive queues. Hopefully, the addition of Guardians & Tron will help in the next 12 months

Plus to add to the misery and queues, Blizzard Beach looks unlikely to open until 2023!

[ATO Jones]

Originally Posted by Twinklestar1

We are here now and done all 4 parks this week. Got in all 4 on early entry and went for our ‘must do’ rides whilst booking a LL. It has actually worked well for us - for example Rise of the Resistance was a 25 minute wait and it was more like 15. The crowds are ok first thing but then you notice them building from around 11. We have been several times over Easter and so they are not really phasing us and we tend to leave around 4 ish.
We came with an expectation of busy parks, expensive food and merch and very different systems. We are still having a fabulous time and it is lovely to be in the magic.

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So even last week (which the crowd calendar shows as Moderate/Light) still necessitates early entry and booking LL?

[CuteLioness]

Originally Posted by ScoopsAhoy

Sorry to hear this.
This is my fear but we are going well prepared that it’s going to be busier and much more expensive.
I really hope those who have had an awful time with Genie+ complain some how to Disney as that’s the only way they’ll try and improve it .

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Oh believe me, we did! 😂😂

[CuteLioness]

Originally Posted by kk20

10k-15k for a family of 4 in middle to upper class country is probably a normal annual holiday.

Kuoni wouldnt be in business if people werent spending this sort of money.

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An African Safari is cheaper than a Disney trip. Significantly so.

[CuteLioness]

Originally Posted by sha9

I’ll definitely be complaining on my return. We’ve also had an issue with Genie plus dropping off two of the tickets. IAS is a bit of a con with the time not confirming until you’ve paid. We clicked on an 8.10am slot for ROTR and ended up with 2.45pm.

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Yes, this! They simply *have* to change this going forward. It’s so disingenuous! And we were fobbed off by regular CMs when we complained about falling foul of this and it destroying our plans. Only when we spoke to management did it get resolved. What other service do you select a time slot, pay for it, only to find the time slot had then changed by the time you’ve paid? ! Shocking.

[CuteLioness]

Originally Posted by sha9

Yes that happens a lot and we’ve only been here 2 days! It’s basically not holding the time that you see for you and someone else can have “checked out” by the time you get to that point. At least we paid a discounted rate but I’d be raging if I bought it specifically cos I’d seen a good time then it changed.
The only way for Disney to do something is if no one buys it.

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Which is exactly what happened to us one day in MK…

[ScoopsAhoy]

Originally Posted by CuteLioness

Oh believe me, we did! 😂😂

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We aren’t planning on buying it but I know if we did and dh complained ,they’d probably wish they never brought it in in the first place 😅

[Fraser789]

I used to love going to Disney but couldn't think of anything worse right now. We just do Universal & Seaworld etc and have a much better holiday.