Tipping

[Chilli-pepper]

Originally Posted by Andybear

As well as times changing prices also go up. The more expensive the meal is the higher the tip is. It's like when people complain about the price of park tickets compared to what they were 10 years ago. Prices go up. It's simple economics.

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Yes prices do go up and to be expected, but years ago the tip % was, 12%, 15% 18%- then 15%, 18%, 20% now its 18%,20%, 22% pushing 25% in some places, with absolute no basis for the % to increase as the tip amount would naturally increase with menus price increased.

That's not simple economics that just plain greed.

[MrsBC]

Originally Posted by Chilli-pepper

Yes prices do go up and to be expected, but years ago the tip % was, 12%, 15% 18%- then 15%, 18%, 20% now its 18%,20%, 22% pushing 25% in some places, with absolute no basis for the % to increase as the tip amount would naturally increase with menus price increased.

That's not simple economics that just plain greed.

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This is our gripe too - not the increasing cost of meals, and therefore tips, which cant be helped - but the fact that the % has increased, which can only be greed.

[jocesk]

Originally Posted by Chilli-pepper

Yes prices do go up and to be expected, but years ago the tip % was, 12%, 15% 18%- then 15%, 18%, 20% now its 18%,20%, 22% pushing 25% in some places, with absolute no basis for the % to increase as the tip amount would naturally increase with menus price increased.

That's not simple economics that just plain greed.

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Exactly i remember back when it was 8%! People are blindly paying the recommended amounts because they believe it the "culture" or that servers wont get paid...even if we all tipped 10% they would still make good money on their prices.

[dx4100]

I have found this debate really interesting... Not often I soften my stance off a debate but I think this one has.

Think I am going along with the general opinion that Disney restaurants expecting such high tips at 18% - 20% when the menu prices are so inflated is pushing it. I am doing deluxe dining plan next time and I think I might set my normal tip for good service back down to 15% instead of 18% (which was always my norm until I started doing Disney World).

I still think "poor" service should be judged on a sliding scale and not the binary of full tip or no tip which was pretty much suggested by a few. I mean personally for me it would have to be really bad to get to 10% and pretty dam awful for 5%. I doubt I would make it through the meal if we was hitting 5%!

[MrsBC]

Originally Posted by dx4100

I have found this debate really interesting... Not often I soften my stance off a debate but I think this one has.

Think I am going along with the general opinion that Disney restaurants expecting such high tips at 18% - 20% when the menu prices are so inflated is pushing it. I am doing deluxe dining plan next time and I think I might set my normal tip for good service back down to 15% instead of 18% (which was always my norm until I started doing Disney World).

I still think "poor" service should be judged on a sliding scale and not the binary of full tip or no tip which was pretty much suggested by a few. I mean personally for me it would have to be really bad to get to 10% and pretty dam awful for 5%. I doubt I would make it through the meal if we was hitting 5%!

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We did it this year - roughly 15% and rounded it up or down to the nearest % - and if the service was exceptional it was higher.

[Tinkerbell]

Originally Posted by Andybear

As well as times changing prices also go up. The more expensive the meal is the higher the tip is. It's like when people complain about the price of park tickets compared to what they were 10 years ago. Prices go up. It's simple economics.

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Why?

What more does a server do in a $100 restaurant than a $50 restaurant?


When we were in Disney in May, tipped on what I believe was the amount deserved. All this talk about , if your can’t afford to tip go elsewhere is imho patronising. Either it’s a tip or it’s an obligatory service charge, if it’s the latter, wack in on the menu prices and don’t have tips, or pay your staff more
I tipped 12%- 15% in many. I paid the server in coral reef 18% because she was very good and the waiter in Tony’s MK got 20% and a well done via the manager as he was excellent. On the other hand at the Ale and Compass the server ended up with a dollar and a conversation with the manager. I had, inadvertently, put the original tip of 12% in the wrong section . He came storming back, threw the receipt on my table and demanded to know why I hadn’t tipped him. I asked for the manager, who spotted the mistake immediately, asked if I wanted to change it and I said yes, crossed it out and left a dollar with the explanation that a tip was “recommended” not a legal “obligation” and as a customer I had no intentions of being spoken to in that manner. Nothing more said and meal credited back to DDP.

I’m happy to tip anyone, but I don’t feel under any obligation to do so, and will not be forced or made to feel guilty about the amount but I would not , not leave a tip without a discussion with the manager

[Guest]

Originally Posted by dx4100

I have found this debate really interesting... Not often I soften my stance off a debate but I think this one has.

Think I am going along with the general opinion that Disney restaurants expecting such high tips at 18% - 20% when the menu prices are so inflated is pushing it. I am doing deluxe dining plan next time and I think I might set my normal tip for good service back down to 15% instead of 18% (which was always my norm until I started doing Disney World).

I still think "poor" service should be judged on a sliding scale and not the binary of full tip or no tip which was pretty much suggested by a few. I mean personally for me it would have to be really bad to get to 10% and pretty dam awful for 5%. I doubt I would make it through the meal if we was hitting 5%!

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbell

Why?

What more does a server do in a $100 restaurant than a $50 restaurant?


When we were in Disney in May, tipped on what I believe was the amount deserved. All this talk about , if your can’t afford to tip go elsewhere is imho patronising. Either it’s a tip or it’s an obligatory service charge, if it’s the latter, wack in on the menu prices and don’t have tips, or pay your staff more
I tipped 12%- 15% in many. I paid the server in coral reef 18% because she was very good and the waiter in Tony’s MK got 20% and a well done via the manager as he was excellent. On the other hand at the Ale and Compass the server ended up with a dollar and a conversation with the manager. I had, inadvertently, put the original tip of 12% in the wrong section . He came storming back, threw the receipt on my table and demanded to know why I hadn’t tipped him. I asked for the manager, who spotted the mistake immediately, asked if I wanted to change it and I said yes, crossed it out and left a dollar with the explanation that a tip was “recommended” not a legal “obligation” and as a customer I had no intentions of being spoken to in that manner. Nothing more said and meal credited back to DDP.

I’m happy to tip anyone, but I don’t feel under any obligation to do so, and will not be forced or made to feel guilty about the amount but I would not , not leave a tip without a discussion with the manager

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I am inclined to agree with you both in principle. I think 10-15% is reasonable and indeed maybe a flat tip (not based on meal cost) makes most sense. DH and I like a nice bottle of wine and it particularly irks that different varieties of wine can push up the suggested tip so much.

In practice, DH always settles the bill not me, I have just asked and he says he tends to go for the nearest "round number" by this he means the nearest £10 or £5 so long as it is over 10%. So perhaps quite similar to my 10-15%.

[Mr Tom Morrow]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell

Why?

What more does a server do in a $100 restaurant than a $50 restaurant?


When we were in Disney in May, tipped on what I believe was the amount deserved. All this talk about , if your can’t afford to tip go elsewhere is imho patronising. Either it’s a tip or it’s an obligatory service charge, if it’s the latter, wack in on the menu prices and don’t have tips, or pay your staff more
I tipped 12%- 15% in many. I paid the server in coral reef 18% because she was very good and the waiter in Tony’s MK got 20% and a well done via the manager as he was excellent. On the other hand at the Ale and Compass the server ended up with a dollar and a conversation with the manager. I had, inadvertently, put the original tip of 12% in the wrong section . He came storming back, threw the receipt on my table and demanded to know why I hadn’t tipped him. I asked for the manager, who spotted the mistake immediately, asked if I wanted to change it and I said yes, crossed it out and left a dollar with the explanation that a tip was “recommended” not a legal “obligation” and as a customer I had no intentions of being spoken to in that manner. Nothing more said and meal credited back to DDP.

I’m happy to tip anyone, but I don’t feel under any obligation to do so, and will not be forced or made to feel guilty about the amount but I would not , not leave a tip without a discussion with the manager

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Ha ha. I ripped the Ale & Compass Podium Lady a new one last night as 3 times she used my surname. I told her to use my first name or call me Mr
She won’t forget me in a hurry.
We never actually ate there as I walked out
In fact we have ditched it 3 times this trip as there is always a 30+ min wait after the ADR time. I never wait

[Lindaelaine]

Originally Posted by Mr Tom Morrow

Ha ha. I ripped the Ale & Compass Podium Lady a new one last night as 3 times she used my surname. I told her to use my first name or call me Mr
She won’t forget me in a hurry.
We never actually ate there as I walked out
In fact we have ditched it 3 times this trip as there is always a 30+ min wait after the ADR time. I never wait

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If we have gone to a restaurant podium and needed to give our name for a table it's always just the surname we give, then when the table is ready they will call out table for " surname " I might be wrong but I'm sure they haven't called out Mr prior to the surname , I just thought that was the way it was done and not them being disrespectful .

[dx4100]

Originally Posted by Lindaelaine

If we have gone to a restaurant podium and needed to give our name for a table it's always just the surname we give, then when the table is ready they will call out table for " surname " I might be wrong but I'm sure they haven't called out Mr prior to the surname , I just thought that was the way it was done and not them being disrespectful .

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In this day and age if you presume a gender you are done for