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Old 21 Jan 15, 02:34 PM  
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Typical that it's 1 day after the discount dealing day. 😒
Yeah I think they've probably had that in mind when doing it.

As soon as i mentioned Euro disney sca shares they knew the situation straight away so I'm guessing they have more dlp shareholders than i thought.
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Old 21 Jan 15, 02:47 PM  
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Typical that it's 1 day after the discount dealing day. 😒
When do we have to buy shares by? Maybe there will be another discount dealing day - assuming these shares are bought in the same way?
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The first part of the share rights runs from Monday 19th January to Friday 6th February inclusive. So you have until close of trading on the French Stock Market on that date to buy them at the 1.00 special rate.
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Old 21 Jan 15, 03:10 PM  
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Has anyone decided what to yet? If the Shareholders Club stays the same, 100 shares for current members then I don't think I'll buy more But then I could buy some at 1 euro then hope they go up in a couple of years and sell them
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Old 21 Jan 15, 03:13 PM  
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You could buy your shares at 1.00 EUR and sell them to TWDC at the 1.25 EUR they are offering, making a little profit on each. If you currently have 100 shares and buy all 900 offered to you, selling them straight back, you can make 225.00 EUR (less commissions/fees)

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Old 21 Jan 15, 03:48 PM  
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You could buy your shares at 1.00 EUR and sell them to TWDC at the 1.25 EUR they are offering, making a little profit on each. If you currently have 100 shares and buy all 900 offered to you, selling them straight back, you can make 225.00 EUR (less commissions/fees)

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Isn't this supposed to cover the loss in value of your original shares? So no profit, just breaking even?

i.e.
You had 100 shares worth 3 euros each = 300 euros.
You buy 900 shares at 1 euro each, totalling 1000 shares that you paid 1300 euros for.

You sell all 1000 shares for 1250 euros.
Or, you sell the 900 shares for 1125 and keep the 100 euros which are worth 125 euros.

Either way, you make a small loss of 50 euros if you buy the additional shares.


If you don't buy and retain your original shares, your 300 euro investment is currently worth 125 euros.


Of course, some people bought their shares at a much higher price than 3 euros, so they will lose more whichever route they take.
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Old 21 Jan 15, 04:39 PM  
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I bought my 100 shares for over 400 so I will have lost out either way. So my plan is to buy the 900 shares for 1 euro each. Then I'm hoping that I can sell the 900 back to TWDC for 1.25 and make a bit of a profit. I'll then keep 100 shares in the hope that a) the shareholders club will continue and b) the price will eventually rise and I'll make a bit more of my money back.

I could just keep the 100 shares and do nothing but, assuming I can sell part of my holding, it makes sense to buy the extra shares as I have the cash available.
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You could buy your shares at 1.00 EUR and sell them to TWDC at the 1.25 EUR they are offering, making a little profit on each. If you currently have 100 shares and buy all 900 offered to you, selling them straight back, you can make 225.00 EUR (less commissions/fees)

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Your previous posts have suggested that we'll be able to sell the 900 shares and still keep 100. Do you think we'll definitely be able to do that under the offer? I've read the proposal but it's not clear to me whether that will be the case or whether we'll have to choose between selling the whole holding or keeping it.
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Old 21 Jan 15, 05:21 PM  
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HFJohnson: Yes. So long as you retain the 100 shares, you will remain eligible for the Shareholders Club. They used this exact example at the AGM to help people understand just what they can do and to make clear that you can use this offer to benefit short term.

A&S&O: I do see what you are saying, that is indeed the case if you were planning on the first weekend of October to sell your shares first thing on Monday 6th October.

I however look at it totally differently. To me, my shares which I currently hold, are worth however many I have multiplied by whatever the current market value is (Currently: 1.24 EUR). But it doesn't actually matter the price I purchased them at - that was an investment I made at the time and until I sell them I have neither gained nor lost anything. Similar to having a mortgage where the house is in negative equity. This only matters and becomes an issue IF you are selling at that exact time - otherwise the loss is purely academic.

If, as suggested, I want to keep a minimum of 100 shares, then whatever I do with the extra ones I am able to buy and sell through this rights issue is a bonus. So as long as I retain those 100 shares - I can buy 900 at 1.00 EUR and then sell them at 1.25, thus making a gross profit of 225.00 EUR.

I will still remain a member of the Shareholders Club and still retain the 100 shares required for membership. Their actual value is unimportant until I come to sell them. Which I don't want to do as I want to keep my membership and benefit from the discounts and offers available to me.

If alternatively I want to take a punt and keep the extra 900 shares or part thereof, then again, I have made an investment and will not make a loss or gain until such time as I decide to sell them.
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Most people do not buy shares in EDL as a serious investment. In fact, the majority of the thousands of small shareholders hold their shares so that they can available themselves of Salon Mickey and other benefits offered by the Shareholders Club.

If I look at what I have actually saved over the past few years through shop, restaurant and hotel discounts etc (Yes, I am one of those sad people who keeps track of these things using a spreadsheet), this amount is currently several times over my initial investment (which I still have) and thus I am already better off than not having the shares.
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