Gratuities - please hear me out!

[DisneyFoodie]

Originally Posted by Mumsy554

Does anyone think that the "suggested" amount to be tipped in restaurants should be changed or even scrapped altogether.I am certainly not against tipping for good service ,but I don't want to feel guilty about not giving a suggested amount and don't think someone should expect a certain amount ,surely something is better than nothing,and with the current dollar exchange rate we are getting less and less for our money so less spending money on a holiday that has probably taken quite a while to save for

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Yep I do think the system is silly, just as I think our British rail system is economically ridiculous. But I still pay my tip for the same reason I pay my train fare... it is socially and economically expected of me.

[Guest]

Originally Posted by Shooby doo

Mumsy that's our problem not theirs. Doesn't matter if you leave 1% or 18% the server will still be taxed as assuming they got 18%.

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No they won't. This is one of those urban myths.

[Gezzs]

Originally Posted by Shooby doo

The "suggested" amounts, in theory, are there to help all those guests that are sitting with their calculators & working it out

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If this is the case (as I understood it was), then no-one should be questioning any deviation from the 'suggested' amount. It's not a problem for me cos if they provide bad service, I will let them or the manager know. I will not leave 15% for bad service either.

[Mumsy554]

Maybe Disney should be made to pay their staff a decent wage,Disney must be worth billions surely

[Ridersmom]

It's not just Disney. IN the US, restaurnats pay their waitstaff pennies (some don't pay at all). It is expected that tips will be their wages. While many may disagree with the practice. It is what it is and IMHO not something to debate or withhold. If you don't want to tip, go to a restaurant with take out and bring it home.

And while some waiters make really good money, many are living hand to mouth. While bringing home half of $1200. per night sounds great, some people may only get one or two shifts a week, hardly a living wage.

And to those who have walked out without paying because of service they did not like, the aiter has to pay your bill.

[DisneyFoodie]

Originally Posted by Ridersmom

It's not just Disney. IN the US, restaurnats pay their waitstaff pennies (some don't pay at all). It is expected that tips will be their wages. While many may disagree with the practice. It is what it is and IMHO not something to debate or withhold. If you don't want to tip, go to a restaurant with take out and bring it home.

And while some waiters make really good money, many are living hand to mouth. While bringing home half of $1200. per night sounds great, some people may only get one or two shifts a week, hardly a living wage.

And to those who have walked out without paying because of service they did not like, the aiter has to pay your bill.

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100% agree. If you want to change the way this works, write to the federal government, or the state of Florida. Do not randomly stiff the wait staff because you disagree with the way their culture and economy works!

[Excited6910]

We tip accordingly.

[bighal]

Originally Posted by Ridersmom

It's not just Disney. IN the US, restaurnats pay their waitstaff pennies (some don't pay at all). It is expected that tips will be their wages. While many may disagree with the practice. It is what it is and IMHO not something to debate or withhold. If you don't want to tip, go to a restaurant with take out and bring it home.

And while some waiters make really good money, many are living hand to mouth. While bringing home half of $1200. per night sounds great, some people may only get one or two shifts a week, hardly a living wage.

And to those who have walked out without paying because of service they did not like, the aiter has to pay your bill.

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it doesn' matter if the wait staff get enough tips to cover thier wages or not. It is up to the employer to then make up the difference to the minimum wage in those states that allow tips to be part of the minimum wage.


I think the OP has had thier answer so this thread should probably be locked to stop any discussions getting out of hand.

[Shooby doo]

One final thought before this does get locked, anyone that is complaining should have a quick look at Federal law Wait staff can be paid a whopping $2.13/hour, the restaurant is allowed to use their tips to make this up to $7.53, minimum wage, & even better those "mandatory gratuities" for 6 or more, they don't actually have to give the server any of that as only discretionary payments are classed as tips!
Oh on a discussion with an local employment agent, he stated that Disney are infamous for their wages but they "own" the local workforce.
SD

[DurhamGirl]

We always tip the minimum 18% (pre-tax) for normal service, we pay 20%+ for good service. This applies to restaurants inside or outside Disney. For buffet service, then $1-£2 per person. This is factored into the budget for the holiday.