May :the biggest government defeat in history.

[JoS]

Originally Posted by neatfrk

I feel for all of you. Best of luck as this all sorts itself out. I am trying to watch the coverage, sounds like a total mess.

Just know - you are not alone in having a dysfunctional government totally incapable of doing anything right.

On behalf of the USA, our offer still stands. Even swap May for Trump. Any takers?

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I dont follow much and dont get much coverage either, but would definitely take May over Trump.

[thefergies]

Originally Posted by Mexy02

I really wish people would stop saying remainers want a second vote , maybe some do just like some leavers do but most of us accept the vote but don’t accept the mess the mps are making of this . It’s wearing thin being tarred with the same brush and ≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈ gets my goat even more.

May is in a very difficult position . Bit like kids saying they are hungry but everything you offer them just isnt acceptable but they won’t bother telling you what they actually want .

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I was principally referring to Remain MPs as we have Remain mps of all parties making that call. I don't hear any Leaver mps doing likewise. Similarly, I suspect majority of voters backing second referendum voted Remain but as for the level of support for it overall, I am with you that the majority still wish the democratic decision to be honoured.

[captain-codeye]

She wasn’t handed a poisoned chalice, she took it willingly with her eyes wide open.

Cameron should have grown a pair and not run off with his tail between his legs.

HE was elected by the people to do the people’s will because he promised the referendum, it’s what got him re-elected, he woefully underestimated the number of people voting for him just because of the promise of the referendum.

At the very least, a proper “pro brexit” person should have replaced him, not someone who clearly has never wanted to leave the EU.

It was and is never going to happen with a pro eu parliament and civil service, us plebs got it wrong and we will vote again and again until we vote the correct way for the political elite.

[Nicksgirl]

Originally Posted by allycat228

Can you imagine how much another election let alone the cost to the country if Corbyn gets in

Strange isn’t it that even though some think we are the laughing stock of the world because of brexit migrants are still killing themselves to get here

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of course, if I came from somewhere you got nothing, but a country that gave you everything, I would come here.

But hey, lets ignore the majority and go for another vote and then another vote if its not want people want.

[Dave+Hel]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie

Why is it okay for MPs to have another vote on Brexit but not the general public?

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They aren't voting in brexit itself, more like the prime ministers proposal on how to do it

[RachaelC]

Theresa May only has herself to blame for this. I had high hopes for her initially, but she started off on the wrong foot and has just doubled down ever since.

She had the opportunity to seek consensus and come up with a solution palatable to the majority and yet she chose an arbitrary set of red lines and soundbites like “citizens of nowhere”.

That’s not leadership. I know that there’s no one else clamouring for the job, but that goes a long way to show us what a state our political system is in.

We can’t go back from here, the EU won’t want us to remain as a member, we don’t have a feasible way forward to go it alone and we have 2.5 months until we’re due to leave. Triggering A50 with no plan in place was a gross dereliction of duty.

[miked1e]

Originally Posted by Dave+Hel

They aren't voting in brexit itself, more like the prime ministers proposal on how to do it

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So why don’t they put that question to the people? Vote on the deal if we are of course going to leave?

[scush]

Originally Posted by miked1e

So why don’t they put that question to the people? Vote on the deal if we are of course going to leave?

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That's their job! We've done ours, we voted to leave.

[BevS97]

Originally Posted by scush

That's their job! We've done ours, we voted to leave.

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But leave how?

Norway?
Canada?
May’s deal?
No deal?



They are all vastly different propositions and even when one is decided on some people who voted leave will be disappointed as it wasn’t they sort of ‘leave’ they were expecting.

[scush]

Originally Posted by BevS97

But leave how?

Norway?
Canada?
May’s deal?
No deal?



They are all vastly different propositions and even when one is decided on some people who voted leave will be disappointed as it wasn’t they sort of ‘leave’ they were expecting.

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Looks like no deal. Life's full of disappointments! You've just got to pull your socks up and plough on.