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There is a market for electric I agree with that. Not for rental though and certainly not for me.

Now in 5 plus years maybe yes but not now.
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There is a market for electric I agree with that. Not for rental though and certainly not for me.

Now in 5 plus years maybe yes but not now.
I agree I wouldn't rent one either.
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I have done the maths for what I am buying and doing 12000 miles per annum with diesel.

I have then looked at the identical car with electric and the same mileage and the maths just doesn’t work out over a 3 year period which is the most I ever keep a car but more like 2 years.

There is a £10k difference in the car price.

Now energy prices may change but we can only look at today’s prices not the future rise or fall in electric or diesel costs.
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But surely its not just about the cost of running ice its about all the harmful toxins they emit into the air. We need a greener solution for future generations or we won't have any

I agree to some extent regarding all electric cars so I bought a hybrid which I think is a good halfway choice between the two

Another option is the hydrogen car so no need to rely on the national grid to charge it up
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But surely its not just about the cost of running ice its about all the harmful toxins they emit into the air. We need a greener solution for future generations or we won't have any

I agree to some extent regarding all electric cars so I bought a hybrid which I think is a good halfway choice between the two

Another option is the hydrogen car so no need to rely on the national grid to charge it up
Mike. That I agree with and I'm sure nearly everybody will as well. But the cost has to come down before I 'go green'.
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Not sure orlando has the infrastructure to provide charging facilities for an onslaught of electric cars being provided by car hire companies
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Im sat next to a chap in the office who has a tesla S, he has had it for about 2 years. We have all gone to him for advice and information. He gets a real world range of around 200 - 250 out of it and it takes 10 hours to fully charge at home. We have a tesla supercharger about 10 miles from the office which puts half charge in about 30 mins, so 125 miles in 30 mins - that is what he does on a daily basis and tops up at home. He has used green flag once to get him to the supercharger, it was a cold day and the range dropped 30 miles as soon as he started, it dropped further. This has happened a couple of times.

For me, that would be continual range anxiety. I commute 80 miles a day (80% motorway), a 40 mile trip plus shopping trips. We also drop the kids off at various clubs, scouts, cadets. I would just about get 10 hours of charge in 3 days a week and about 7 hours for the others. Or I can pull up to any filling station and get 600 miles after 3 mins with my mondeo. Personally I run cars to the ground, im currently driving a 2015 mondeo, it has plenty of life left in it yet. There simply isnt a market for those sorts of electric cars. Even at 13p per mile (fuel cost) I wouldn't make a saving on buying an electric car.

Cost wise, his servicing is the same price as mine but none of the local garages will touch it.

Now this is in the middle of Cumbria, I wouldnt dream of touching an electric car in a foreign country.

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Unfortunately at the moment there are 1000's of faulty Expensive batteries stored in warehouses around the UK and worldwide. Many manufacturers have had issues with battery's and had to replace them after only 10miles of use at the extreme . Not quite a million miles just yet. Where I work we alone have been replaced Probably 500 so far at £8k a go battery cost alone. No sign of recycling those any time soon.
Have you a source for this\/
Working in the automotive manufacturing industry, this is not anything that I have heard.
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But surely its not just about the cost of running ice its about all the harmful toxins they emit into the air. We need a greener solution for future generations or we won't have any

I agree to some extent regarding all electric cars so I bought a hybrid which I think is a good halfway choice between the two

Another option is the hydrogen car so no need to rely on the national grid to charge it up
Hydrogen in cars is a dead option tbh.
Very few charging stations, cars are more expensive than even EVs and cost of hydrogen is close to petrol prices.

In the not too distant future 2025, 4 years, the options will be electric for cars and local busses, and hydrogen for lorries and long distance coaches.
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I have done the maths for what I am buying and doing 12000 miles per annum with diesel.

I have then looked at the identical car with electric and the same mileage and the maths just doesn’t work out over a 3 year period which is the most I ever keep a car but more like 2 years.

There is a £10k difference in the car price.

Now energy prices may change but we can only look at today’s prices not the future rise or fall in electric or diesel costs.
You need to get off the BMW bandwagon and look at alternative marques.
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