Up north / down south ?

[buryboy]

Originally Posted by wifey

I don’t think of Manchester as “north” in any way it’s just Manchester not that far from Liverpool and Merseyside neither of which I consider north either they are definitely in the “North” West of the country. See to me it’s quite a way from us and we aren’t truly north more “North East” ( not Geordies and not Northumbrian). So it’s all relative to where you are and your own perspective. We know friends who lived in London and they call going home “ Going back to the Smoke”. They can’t believe how easy it is to get out into the countryside up here within 20 minutes or less from the front door either.

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Now you have got me confused .( not picking on you by the way , just intrigued )
So London and the Home Counties, which are in the South East , are ‘ down south’
But Manchester and Liverpool even though they are in the ‘ North west ‘ are not ‘ up north ‘ ?
How does that work ?

[Guest]

Originally Posted by wifey

I don’t think of Manchester as “north” in any way it’s just Manchester not that far from Liverpool and Merseyside neither of which I consider north either they are definitely in the “North” West of the country. See to me it’s quite a way from us and we aren’t truly north more “North East” ( not Geordies and not Northumbrian). So it’s all relative to where you are and your own perspective. We know friends who lived in London and they call going home “ Going back to the Smoke”. They can’t believe how easy it is to get out into the countryside up here within 20 minutes or less from the front door either.

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That is the most bizarre comment. . I am Mancunian, I also lived in Liverpool for six years, I can assure you that the north west is in the north, hence the “north” in “north west”!

Anyone living in either place would call themselves a northerner. It isn’t a matter of perspective, it is fact, there are nine official regions in England, North West is one of them and again the clue is in the name...

[evergreen]

After Birmingham is South for me

[Smilesonfaces]

Originally Posted by Claudette

That is the most bizarre comment. . I am Mancunian, I also lived in Liverpool for six years, I can assure you that the north west is in the north, hence the “north” in “north west”!

Anyone living in either place would call themselves a northerner. It isn’t a matter of perspective, it is fact, there are nine official regions in England, North West is one of them and again the clue is in the name...

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Unfortunately it sounds about right. The North West of England is pretty much ignored as a region by most !
To me south of Cheshire is Midlands and south of Birmingham is South.
If we are going off the geographical central of Great Britain ( not including islands) though I am right in the middle.

[Guest]

Originally Posted by Smilesonfaces

The North West of England is pretty much ignored as a region by most !

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Is it?

[Smilesonfaces]

Originally Posted by Claudette

Is it?

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I’m not particularly political but I just see a lack of investment especially away from the cities of Manchester and Liverpool, the poverty in many areas, spending cuts, travelling on 40 year old pacer trains which belong in a museum.

[buryboy]

Originally Posted by Smilesonfaces

Unfortunately it sounds about right. The North West of England is pretty much ignored as a region by most !
To me south of Cheshire is Midlands and south of Birmingham is South.
If we are going off the geographical central of Great Britain ( not including islands) though I am right in the middle.

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Wowsers
So what is the North of Cheshire called ?

[Smilesonfaces]

Originally Posted by buryboy

Wowsers
So what is the North of Cheshire called ?

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Ha Ha, north ofcourse.

[novocastrian]

From Newcastle

for me the North starts South Yorkshire / Manchester / Merseyside, below that its the South albeit the Midalnds

but for us Darlington is the South

[Colette-S]

Originally Posted by wifey

To me “Down South” is London/ Surrey/ Middlesex and all the “Home Counties”. Then Wales I always think of as their own country, Cornwall and Devon are part of my heritage despite of me living “ Up North” and to me North is much further up than Leeds which let’s face it is part of the lovely county of Yorkshire ( always either East or West depending on which side you live or visit. To me the rest is other East Midlands/ West Midlands and Merseyside and further up is good old Cumbria before you get to the border with gorgeous Scotland.

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I’m not quite understanding this either. You don’t consider Manchester and Merseyside to be North but not necessarily South? Are you saying that you consider this to be the Midlands?
BTW - Wales is a country!