Redundancy

[Lisa-72]

I work for a small company who for past 6 weeks have reclaimed PPI refunds for clients.
Deadline has now gone, no new work, creditors months behind, too many staff. Do you see where this is going?

There are 3 of us, me the manager,1 other full time and 1 part time.
Criteria for our scoring
Attendance
Aptitude/skills
Disciplinary

Now as far as I know we all score roughly the same for the last two. However the past year my health has not been good, Aussie flu chest infection and tonsillitis at the beginning of Jan 2019, odd other day with migraine and then end of May I was diagnosed with gallstones and had my gallbladder removed in early December.
Been back a week and now this. I accept my attendance hasn’t been great but can they force redundancy on me because of an operation?

Our HR is a directors wife who has no experience so can’t ask her.

[Loftus]

Unfortunately I believe that attendance is a valid criteria to use. It becomes problematic for the company if it is related to a specific disability or maternity.

[Guest]

They will use any criteria and score how they like and if you challenge it they will just say, well that's your opinion. This happened to my DH last summer, he was the most experienced, older, last in and they got rid of all the over 30s, and kept all the young ones with not alot of experience between them. If they want you gone, they will manipulate scoring to keep their jobs, trust no one you work with, they are all out to score more than you. Hope it works out ok and you find something new soon.

[kellyreathomps]

It's meant to be the job role that gets made redundant and not the person so not sure how you can be put fairly against the others as they are not managers? If the management role is going then that would be you who but agree as above they will state any reason or criteria if they need to.

[Lisa-72]

Originally Posted by kellyreathomps

It's meant to be the job role that gets made redundant and not the person so not sure how you can be put fairly against the others as they are not managers? If the management role is going then that would be you who but agree as above they will state any reason or criteria if they need to.

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A very interesting point, we’ve been told a person has to go.

[ERICSMUM]

Of the 3 criteria, attendance and disciplinary should be based on written records.

Aptitude and skills could be more subjective unless your company conducts regular formal performance assessments and marks you against the requirements for the job and/or your grade. this is really the best way to calculate who performs better within their grade.

[TigerMom]

Originally Posted by kellyreathomps

It's meant to be the job role that gets made redundant and not the person so not sure how you can be put fairly against the others as they are not managers? If the management role is going then that would be you who but agree as above they will state any reason or criteria if they need to.

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That's why they have the scoring. I've been in a pool of people who were being scored for redundancy. We were all in the same job role. Attendance is a valid criterion but long term health conditions such as diabetes must be discounted.

[pretty71]

Originally Posted by kellyreathomps

It's meant to be the job role that gets made redundant and not the person so not sure how you can be put fairly against the others as they are not managers? If the management role is going then that would be you who but agree as above they will state any reason or criteria if they need to.

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I see it this way too, is it the management position being made redundant or the position of the 2 below you?

If it's the management position it would be you or the other position?

Are they changing the role of the others too and if this is the case and it's your position going could you apply with the others for that role?

It's a horrible situation i hope it's not too awful.

[scoobydooby]

A manager should not be in the same ring fence I don’t think. Speak to ACAS.

[Guest]

They are going about it incorrectly. The first step should be to decide what structure is required going forward and then eliminate the role(s) that will be no longer needed.

The assessment of which person to make redundant from within a pool should only take place when the pool is made up of people doing the same role but that there are too many of them.

If this were the case, then yes, I am afraid your attendance could be legitimately used in the scoring and would be to your detriment. But as said, the pool does not seem appropriate here.