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Old 19 Feb 17, 04:30 PM  
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Originally Posted by Moorlandman View Post
This is not true at all. The UK operations of Disney have to report their sales in dollars so have to convert their sterling sales to dollars. Disney UK is not a standalone entity

Selling a £300 ticket in 2015 generated $450 compared to $360 today
Well your right they are not a standalone entity. I didn't say they were.


The parent company which reports the Fundamentals is dollars. Disney is VAT registered in the U.K (see link I posted) and trades in Sterling.

Reporting in a currency and trading are two completely different things.



Either that or Disney are really stupid business people. You don't make a sale in a foreign currency when you have the option to make it in the local one.

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Originally Posted by ghostmark2005 View Post
Taken from Orlando attraction tickets:

2017 :
Adult: £602.00
Child (3-9) : £575.00

2018 :
Adult: £780.00
Child (3-9) : £750.00
I'm sure it was Brexit's fault for another 30% price rise.
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Old 20 Feb 17, 03:53 PM  
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I'm sure it was Brexit's fault for another 30% price rise.
I'm quite frankly sick of hearing this Brexit nonsense. Yes it has played a part but it does not equate to a 30% price increase. Prices would have shot up regardless like it does every year, and Universal had huge price hikes before the referendum and even then there was a shoot from £180 to £210 that is now even higher.
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Only a small minority of UK visitors would visit Universal for 14 days so we're pretty much on par with the US as a lot of people will only visit for 2-4 days.
And, funnily enough, the UK 14 day tickets cost about the same as the US 3 day tickets. So, looking at it from a different point of view, our 14 day tickets are a bargain.

Yep, the price of tickets has increased significantly over the past year or two. And, yes, that's bad news for us holidaymakers. Some of that is due to the poor exchange rate whilst a higher proportion is due to the fact that the demand for the parks has increased in recent years. If the parks can increase their prices whilst still maintaining roughly the same numbers of guests then, from a business point of view, they'd be mad not to.
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Originally Posted by HollyF View Post
I'm quite frankly sick of hearing this Brexit nonsense. Yes it has played a part but it does not equate to a 30% price increase. Prices would have shot up regardless like it does every year, and Universal had huge price hikes before the referendum and even then there was a shoot from £180 to £210 that is now even higher.
I agree. My comment was tongue in cheek. More of a "What can we possibly expalin the huge hike on for next year when Brexit was last year?"
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Originally Posted by HollyF View Post
Yes it has played a part but it does not equate to a 30% price increase.
No, but it does equate to about half that increase. (although I would point out that the increase in Universal's ticket price is closer to 45% than 30%).

The other half is the general price increases that we see each year, albeit a higher amount than normal.

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Prices would have shot up regardless like it does every year, and Universal had huge price hikes before the referendum
Ticket prices do increase each year and, percentage-wise, Universal's price increases have been more than Disney's price increases in the last 5 years or so - probably due to the popularity of Harry Potter. However, there haven't been any huge price hikes before like there's been this year. Prices increased significantly more than normal in the last half of last year.

Here's a graph:



I've removed Disney's current 25% discount offer that's due to end in a month's time. You can see that prices were steadily rising until this year, when prices have suddenly jumped up.

Some (not all!) of that increase will be indirectly due to the poor exchange rate. And, yes, some will be due to the parks wanting more profit.
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That graph again... I do love that graph Nimbus!
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Originally Posted by ghostmark2005 View Post
Have been doing some more snooping for all those interested. This is the current prices:
2018 based on floridatix and Disney/Universal US websites:

Disney 14nts and Seaworld 14nts - £2048
Disney 14 Universal 14 - £2608
Disney 21 and Universal 14 - £2754
Disney 21 and Seaworld 14 - £2190
Universal/Disney/Seaworld Parks 14 days - £3040


Disney website - Disney tickets 14 days - £1636
Universal 14 days £946 -
Total: £2582

Same as above but 21 day disney - £1716 + £946 = £2662

Only a few places are offering combo tickets, noticeable floridatix and Orlando attraction tickets and the increase is exceptional:

Taken from Orlando attraction tickets:

2017 :
Adult: £602.00
Child (3-9) : £575.00

2018 :
Adult: £780.00
Child (3-9) : £750.00
You haven't taken into consideration that the current Disney offer of 25% off is only temporary. This will go back to the original rate soon enough, meaning that if you come back in a couple months and compare 2017 prices along with 2018, you will see it will be a lot less of a difference, so comparing now is unfair on yourselves.

Also, some companies are advertising 2018 tickets now when I don't think the parks haven't even released their UK prices officially. They usually do so in March/April.

Does anyone maybe think they're just trying to get some early bookings before others? Attraction Tickets Direct aren't advertising 2018 yet, so it seems odd that other companies are doing so. ATD are the 'UK's number 1 reseller' according to their website so surely the parks would start the ball rolling with them if anyone was to have 2018 prices?

All seems a little fishy to me.
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No, but it does equate to about half that increase.
How do you qualify that statement? Again, they both trade in Sterling and hold assets and pay salaries in the UK. (For Disney this is worth 10's of millions of pounds per year). There is no import / export process with a ticket, it's a Contract sale.

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