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Old 24 May 20, 07:32 PM  
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Advice for colleague in nhs disciplinary.

Sorry it’s a long one. I have a colleague (nhs) who is going to be taken through a bullying and harassment investigation accused of bullying and vandalism to a person’s property. They are not in a union unfortunately. Any advice on what is the way forward for them. To be honest the accuser hates this person and I mean that literally, total clash of personalities and this person and another have made it their mission to try and get the person removed from the department by winding this person up, name calling behind their back and blaming any mistakes made on this person without proof (everytime it’s been proven it was somebody else’s mistake). They have been setting the scene for a couple of years to lead to this scenario. The accused has had no idea of any of this going on apart from being aware of the unpleasantness of these two people. I just feel for this person who is a very good worker could lose their job over false accusations as I see it. This person is not by any means timid and will talk to a person if there is a problem and try and sort out differences. The accuser is refusing any mediation and wants this formal hearing.
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Old 24 May 20, 07:37 PM  
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They should check their home insurance to see if they can get support from there.
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Old 24 May 20, 07:39 PM  
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I'm a staff side rep (NHS). What role is the person in? There may be a few options available. First they need to get hold of the relevant policy and check on the format of the investigation. They also need to collect records that will prove any of what you say happened before, including names of anybody who may have witnessed anything.
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Old 24 May 20, 07:40 PM  
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Could she ring ACAS for advice? Also l would advise her to take a witness to any hearing and to prepare what she wants to say prior to having the meeting.
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Old 24 May 20, 07:49 PM  
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Definitely take someone with them, another colleague is usually allowed. They could join a union now and get advice, they might even be able to postpone it until the union rep is up to speed.
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Old 24 May 20, 07:51 PM  
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Get them to write everything down , literally everything !

Do not go to mediation alone ( A mistake I made and got totally stitched up)
can they not check with a union? some will take on a case straight away some will need a timescale before they will take on a case.

Make sure someone impartial goes in with them, if only to take notes do not post anything about it on social media ..nothing at all so as it would not be used in evidence

Good Luck with your friend,it took 18 months of hell and me almost at a breakdown for me to get away from this
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Old 24 May 20, 08:04 PM  
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Is it too late for your colleague to join a Union ? My husband once had a grievance against him and joined a a Union who then defended him and got the grievance dropped.
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Old 24 May 20, 08:05 PM  
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I would agree with ginwithaslice and speak to a union and get advice, even though they aren’t a member currently, they can join and get union benefits.
I was with RCN when they were looking at scaling down some if the nurses jobs. RCN were useless, i spoke with GMB who agreed to take on the case and i joined at that point.

Also agree to write everything down, if possible get things in writing bu sending emails and copying everyone and their aunt in.

Good luck to your friend!
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Old 24 May 20, 08:28 PM  
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Can your friend bring a bullying harassing case against her accusers?
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Old 24 May 20, 09:35 PM  
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I will get the person to check out the possibility of a union but I thought you had to be 4 weeks in a union and not able to oversee any current problem but I could be wrong. I’ll also tell them to check house insurance as we were able to do this when a car hit my son and wanted over £1000 to repair the wing mirror. The underlying childish bullying wasn’t noticed by this person but was boasted about by the complainer (you really have no idea) so do we tell them? At times it feels like we are in week 8 of The Big Brother House Thanks for all your replies I will speak to this person tomorrow as I have been on holiday.
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