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8 Apr 19, 12:43 PM |
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Mine Train is one of those sweet spot rides where it's a rollercoaster that the whole family can ride together. You can easily imagine kids, parents and grandparents all riding together.
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8 Apr 19, 12:48 PM |
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Join Date: Aug 04
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Reading this thread, I feel happy that we have always been able to go at ‘quieter’ times of year and never queued longer than 20 minutes for anything (and that was when Toy Story Mania was new and we loved and still love it). Granted we always stay on site and get in the park first thing.
We go in 3 weeks and are only doing WDW for the first week of three in Florida. I have managed to FP all of the rides that are new to us and we will just then do anything that doesn’t have a long wait. I really feel for those of you with young families and who are tied to the busiest times, it must either be like planning a military campaign or just extremely frustrating
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8 Apr 19, 12:52 PM |
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Join Date: Jul 16
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If you focus Disney and stay on-site, doing that even at busy times certainly seems manageable - more than 1 day per park would allow you more than 3 early fastpass reservations and not every ride needs them. The difficulty comes for people who aren't exclusively visiting Disney and still have to travel during school time.
We didn't do too bad on our 2017 trip which was exactly as above, but we bailed BTMR and Seven Dwarfs because we weren't prepared to wait several hours for either. The worst queue we actually sat through was R'n'RC at 82 mins which was tolerable (though only posted 65 else we might not have bothered!)
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8 Apr 19, 01:00 PM |
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We used to go end jan/early feb and the queues were easily manageable. I wouldn't queue for anything over 45 minutes. We are going again in July for the first time in 6 years. I also think this will be the last time I go. We are only going this year as I promised DD a long time ago that we would go when she finished her exams and now I have to make good on that promise.
My daughter went to Thorpe Park last year with her school and had to wait 90-120 minutes for the 3 rides she managed to get on in the day. Maybe Disney lines aren't so bad after all? We went to DLP last August and it was busy but not too bad. The busiest ride was BTRR and the queues got up to 75 minutes. We also spent the day at Phantasialand near Cologne the summer before. The queues there were virtually non-existent except for the brand new coaster they had opened about 2 weeks earlier where the queue was about 45 minutes. Of course, the fact that the weather was pretty miserable probably kept the crowd numbers down but it was a fantastic day out. Maybe I'll stick to those parks in the future. I really can't justify the cost v experience of Disney in Florida any more
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8 Apr 19, 01:45 PM |
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Join Date: Jul 16
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What Thorpe Park has that Disney does not, however, is FasTrack. I also visited TP in 2017 during a Saturday Fright Night event, certainly one of the busier days. A £40 Fastrack ticket got us priority access to all 5 coasters, and all at night too. They were posted 55-90 mins each but with Fastrack we queued just over an hour for all 5 combined, saving us almost 5 hours - or double the benefit we got from our Universal Express passes earlier in the year that cost almost twice that much.
Even so, I'd be more willing to queue 90 mins for The Swarm than I was 70 mins for Pirates of the Caribbean. As long as the real world queue time doesn't tip 3 figures, a good coaster is usually worth waiting for. There are very few rides at WDW that fall into that category. I suppose the question is, given how expensive Disney World already is, how expensive would you have to price paid FP+ for them to actually work?
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8 Apr 19, 02:25 PM |
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When you consider that the parks at Disney get something like 5 times as many visitors as the UK parks get and, other than MK, generally have less rides I'm sometimes surprised the queues at Disney aren't longer than they are.
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8 Apr 19, 03:01 PM |
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slightly serious Dibber
Join Date: Jul 16
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Me too but I imagine that may have something to do with there being more 'non-ride' content at Disney parks than there are in a lot of other places. A large number of attractions at Disney World aren't rides, whereas in a lot of other parks, there's very little else around.
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8 Apr 19, 03:54 PM |
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Yeah, I'm not sure opening the new Tron ride will help. If you assume an hourly capacity of 1000 guests per hour, then a constant 4 hour queue for Tron will soak up around 4000 guests at any one time. I suspect the new Tron coaster itself will attract that many extra people, not including the usual annual increases between now and 2021. As you say, the extra capacity will be negated by the extra crowds.
I agree that Disney should employ more CMs and run their rides at full capacity. That's probably the only way to impact wait times. Although there's a limit to the benefit this provides and it would require Disney to spend more money (= make less profit and thus spend less money on new stuff in the parks).
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8 Apr 19, 03:59 PM |
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slightly serious Dibber
Join Date: Jul 16
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Even with discounted multi-day tickets, between park tickets, parking and the odd bits of food we consume at Disney, it's about a £100 per person per day affair. I imagine those saving more by focusing on Disney for all 10+ days of a holiday would prop up that revenue by staying on-site. I find it hard to believe they can't still pull decent margins with a few extra staff / ride and show theaters where the ride design lends itself to them. Obviously with rollercoasters it's a bit more complicated.
The other gripe is of course opening hours. The only park open super late is the only one I don't really care about staying late at. Having the opportunity to mill around Epcot or Animal Kingdom at 11pm-midnight is something I'd definitely like to experience.
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8 Apr 19, 10:49 PM |
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Stuck in the Tower of Terror
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As TimTracker has said quite a few times lately, is it time for a fifth gate?
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