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Old 10 Mar 20, 07:32 AM  
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San Francisco ghost hunt cancelled Coronovirus. Is this the start of greater problems?

I travel on March 30 and here is my first confirmation that things are starting to unwind for me!

Dear Brave Ghost Hunter,
Please accept our deepest apologies. Due to the impact the COVID-19 virus is having on commerce and tourism in San Francisco, we are forced to close from March 16 to April 7. We deeply regret doing this and we hope things bounce back very soon. You will see a refund to your account and automatic confirmation email within the next 24 hours. (Please note that peek.com and stripe.com which handle our reservations and credit card transactions might keep their service fee. But, we can assure you, we will be refunding everything else on our end.) As a thank you for your understanding, we are including this Promo Code: *********, which is good for up to 4 guests, completely free, for any future available date on the tour. This code will not expire under current ownership. Please make sure to make your purchase directly from us at sfghosthunt to honor your comp. Once again please accept our apologies and thank you for your understanding.


I wonder if this is the first (for me) of many planned items to be cancelled, Alcatraz? Love tour? Cycle hire? Hearst Castle? Hotels x 4? Flights x 3? Border crossing by road in to Canada? Car hires x 2?

The Embarcadero piers , including presumably the one that services Alcatraz have also been closed for an initial 2 weeks, so that is probably going to scrub my Alcatraz visit on 31 March, should they extend it at all.

I am not yet aware of whether the Embarcadero ban extends round to include Fishermen’s and Pier 39.
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Old 10 Mar 20, 10:15 AM  
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No advice CFB but I’m sorry to read this, I know how much you’re looking forward to this holiday.
Keeping my fingers and toes crossed no more cancellations happen for you
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Old 10 Mar 20, 10:39 AM  
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Oh no CFB - this makes me feel really uneasy, we plan and plan and then our long awaited trips unravel in front of our eyes and nothing we can do about it
We travel in June and planned for 2 years - my parents with us (almost 70) so its very worrying all round
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Old 10 Mar 20, 10:49 AM  
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Same boat for me. I've booked flights to SFO for July, and now just in the process of booking hotels. Don't even know if Corona Virus will be a thing by then or if the whole trip will have to be cancelled.

As an aside, if a trip had to be cancelled due to something like Corona, would insurance even pay out? Or would it be an exception under Force Majeure or Natural Disaster?
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Old 10 Mar 20, 11:12 AM  
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Same boat for me. I've booked flights to SFO for July, and now just in the process of booking hotels. Don't even know if Corona Virus will be a thing by then or if the whole trip will have to be cancelled.

As an aside, if a trip had to be cancelled due to something like Corona, would insurance even pay out? Or would it be an exception under Force Majeure or Natural Disaster?
People who know me well will tell you that my head does not work like that of a ‘normal person’. I am intensely stubborn and plough on regardless. I have a long list of ‘alternatives’ provided I can get there, use accommodation and feed myself.
A lot of my vacation can involve trekking, cycling and driving. They ain’t gonna be closing Bonita Point, Sutra Baths, Golden Gate Park, 17 mile drive, Big Sur, Pfeiffer, Partington, Bixby Bridge, San Simeon, etc etc etc

I will be going unless British Airways pull the plug on us. If they do, then we get our money back. If the government (here or USA) tell them to, then the world really is on ‘the edge’. If I pull, then I lose my money. As long as hotels are not shut down, I will be there!

I have an internal San Luis Obispo flight to Seattle. £273 and no refund if I cancel. If that gets cancelled by them, I will drive from SL Obispo to Seattle after changing my car hire, then pick up my second hire to continue onwards to Vancouver (Long Drive).

As for hotels x 3. All are cancellable with a small admin fee on one of them (a nights worth). I guess my mate Bill in Vancouver was not charging me to stay at his home.

Both car hires are cancellable with an admin fee on both. ($110 total).

4x Prem Inns at Salisbury, Chertsey, LHR Bath Rd and again on Landing, I would use the first 3 on a UK mini break and lose the last one.
Purple Parking. No fee.
Alcatraz, I can cancel. No fee.
Love tour, I can cancel. No fee.



The rest, such as driving to beauty spots on the PCH, Cycle hire and bimbling round SFO , Hearst Castle, San Simeon etc are not booked or cost nothing.

I have not yet looked at my travel insurance. I will treat any options there as a bonus. In the event that a ‘pandemic’ is called, then no.

Thanks for your concerns. Whilst it will hurt a little and we will obviously be very disappointed, we can live with it. At the very worst, if BA cancel, then we may be able to reschedule to August and BA switch us at no cost.. possibly.
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Originally Posted by cornishfrogboy View Post
People who know me well will tell you that my head does not work like that of a ‘normal person’. I am intensely stubborn and plough on regardless. I have a long list of ‘alternatives’ provided I can get there, use accommodation and feed myself.
I like the cut of your jib! I am also ploughing on regardless and making sure that everything is no cost should it be cancelled. Personally, I think the whole thing will have blown over by July so I'm not overly concerned. I think the media is making the situation seem so much worse than it actually is.
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I do think if businesses are feeling closing is a justifiable commercial decision and other people are insisting on ploughing on regardless with vacations then someone is right and someone isn’t .
I’m thankful we don’t travel long haul til Much later in the year, it would be a difficult decision if we had an imminent holiday booked.
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I do think if businesses are feeling closing is a justifiable commercial decision and other people are insisting on ploughing on regardless with vacations then someone is right and someone isn’t .
I’m thankful we don’t travel long haul til Much later in the year, it would be a difficult decision if we had an imminent holiday booked.
I think that the sentiment/reasoning behind my ploughing on is as follows.

1. I don’t worry about catching things. As a soldier I could have caught bullets. As a police officer I could have caught anything from anybody as I visited hundreds of often disgracefully filthy houses. As a NHS worker in a Hospital, I am exposed to every bug going as I visit nearly all wards in the Hospital during most days.

2. Money. I am in for £4800app on this vacation not counting spending money. That is in Dollars already and safe. If I shoot through and cancel of my own bat, I lose £1760 in flights (BA) plus £1000 in non recoverable throughout my DIY Holiday , so £2760 of my £4800.

If I get cancelled by BA, I get my flight money back, so will be £1000 out of pocket and with an awful lot of dollars in my hand. I can live with that.

If I go, then I have seen most of the touristy bits before and thus I am effectively only duplicating previous experience. The main thrust was to see the PCH that was closed when I last visited 2 years back. I cannot see that I will be prevented from doing all the things in my previous post between SFO and San Luis Obispo. They are all solitary in nature, other than Hearst Castle and Whale watching.
I do not need to see Pier 39, Fishermen’s, Alcatraz, Cable car etc etc, although clearly I intended to. I could still have a great vacation, just with the family in car, on bikes and on foot. That is the beauty of California.

That is the rationale behind ‘Ploughing on’. I just need to get there, eat and accommodate in order to have a great vacation and visit my mate in Vancouver also. If it was my first visit to California and ‘must do’s’ were being closed up, then I might be thinking differently. If it was an Orlando or LA centred vacation where the park openings were at risk, then I might also be thinking differently.

If I can get there I will do it. I am more likely to catch Coronovirus in my workplace between March 27 and April 12 than I am on vacation. There are already 3 cases in Cornwall.. and we have one Hospital of size..
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Yes folks a lot of over commentating at present, on an average year in England 17,000 people die of flu. 2015 a bad year there was 28,500. Yes it can be serious but the press need a bit of balance to the reporting. This all leads to the paranoia in the shops etc at present.
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Oh no but I really like your attitude
U should get a Dibb bus as the alternatives sound amazing... I want a ticket
It is really worrying though as most of us on here but a lot of effort and money and for stuff to be closed is just awful. Don’t know when this will all fizzle out but I hope soon
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