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View Poll Results: Who should be the next leader of the Conservative Party
Boris Johnson 78 45.09%
Jeremy Hunt 13 7.51%
Michael Gove 11 6.36%
Penny Mordaunt 2 1.16%
Matt Hancock 1 0.58%
Rory Stewart 9 5.20%
Esther McVey 8 4.62%
Sir Graham Brady 2 1.16%
Steve Baker 1 0.58%
Sajid Javid 27 15.61%
Liz Truss 2 1.16%
Andrea Leadsom 8 4.62%
Dominic Raab 11 6.36%
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Old 25 May 19, 03:28 PM  
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Originally Posted by RachaelC View Post
Iíd be interested to know if people who think Johnson should be next think heís the best man for the job, or that this is partly his mess so he should fix it?
I'm wondering if people would like him voted in so he can make even more of a mess and so a snap General Election will then have to be called.
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Cameron wasn't strong enough...Thatcher, whether people agree with her or not, was a real powerhouse who took no ≈≈≈≈≈ from the EU.
She also decimated mining communities up north that have never recovered to this day. And she sent in the army (dressed as policemen) on the striking miners. The mention of her name even now stirs raw emotions.
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She also decimated mining communities up north that have never recovered to this day. And she sent in the army (dressed as policemen) on the striking miners. The mention of her name even now stirs raw emotions.
Completely agree, instructing the police not to allow supporters and food to be allowed into the mining communities too - inhumane. Also, as mentioned orchestrating the cover up into 96 unlawful deaths including children.
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Hope to goodness its not Johnson... muppet mania
Spitting Image would have a field day if it was still running.
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Very difficult choice.

I know she's not on the thread poll but maybe Priti Patel. Not necessarily the most unifying but will stand up to Europe.

For a more moderate, unifying long-term leader in a post Brexit world then maybe someone like Rory Stewart.
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Just want someone to come in and sort the mess out. Get rid of the deadwood and make us proud to live in this country and be British. Stand up to the EU and show them we are not there to be walked over.
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She also decimated mining communities up north that have never recovered to this day. And she sent in the army (dressed as policemen) on the striking miners. The mention of her name even now stirs raw emotions.
My point was about Maggie and how she handled the EU.

I have two brothers, at the time one was a miner the other a police officer and they faced each other on the picket line...one had no income coming in whilst the other was earning loads from overtime. I knew all about the anger towards Thatcher and my one brother still hates her to this day.

We all discussed the strike at great length and even my brother who was the miner admitted that they were over manned, he said 5 people were doing the job that 3 possibly 2 could have done. However Scargill wanted to take Thatcher on and that was his mistake, calling that strike without a national vote not only dissected the support within the NUM but alienated him from the other trade unions and didn't get their support. Scargill is as much to blame for what happened to the coal industry as Thatcher did.

I don't know whether the coal industry was sustainable long term in the UK but at that time only a fool or egotist would purposely go up against the government of the time rather than work with them to at least keep the industry going to give it a chance.

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Originally Posted by tocpe321 View Post
Very difficult choice.

I know she's not on the thread poll but maybe Priti Patel. Not necessarily the most unifying but will stand up to Europe.

For a more moderate, unifying long-term leader in a post Brexit world then maybe someone like Rory Stewart.
I actually think the only real way to get out of this mess is to have a temporary PM who is a Brexiteer and then once out bring in a PM who is capable of unifying the country... I know it won't happen but the skills needed for these tasks are so different I'm not sure there is one person capable of achieving both
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I actually think the only real way to get out of this mess is to have a temporary PM who is a Brexiteer and then once out bring in a PM who is capable of unifying the country... I know it won't happen but the skills needed for these tasks are so different I'm not sure there is one person capable of achieving both
Sounds good to me.
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Itís David Cameronís mess, but he very quickly did a disappearing act, probably when he realised what heíd done!
I agree, but Johnson is guilty of treating this like a game. Heís the one who wrote two different newspaper articles taking entirely opposite stances on whether to leave or remain in 2016.

He backed leave because he decided it would position him better for Conservative leadership, not because itís what he truly believed at the time
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