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Unread 11 Jan 20, 01:33 PM  
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My friends dog had all of the same issues he went to a specialist for allergy testing and it turned out he was allergic to storage mites that live in complete dry food. She put him into raw food and/or tinned meat and he was like a different dog after that.
Theres an allergy specialist who comes in twice a month hes offered that we go and see him too. This is sounding like a better option to me.
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I did reply to your earlier posts, you might recall we had a Labrador with similar symptoms. We had allergy testing with her at a huge animal facility in Newmarket which we were referred to by our vet. They developed a serum for her. I cant remember the exact costs but we think around 2,000. This was in 2008 ish. We then had to learn to inject this. I think first it was every few days, then weekly then once per month. This was covered under our pet insurance. Unfortunately it didnt get the symptoms under control but we were glad we tried it. The only thing that worked for her was a daily steroid and 2 piriton in am and 2 in pm. We agonised about giving her a daily steroid we were worried about the long term prognosis and spent a good few months fiddling with the dose so she would have the lowest dose possible. We tried one every other day, half a day etc. Anyway this all developed around 18 months old and she lived to nearly 11. We took the view we would prefer her to have a happy shorter life than to be itchy all the time and get infections all the time. The vets did recommend a treatment called atopica which I think does something to the dogs immune system. This was a new drug at the time and would have exceeded our insurance levels quite quickly, we had a young family and not too much spare money so we declined that drug. Subsequent reading about atopica I think the side effects are quite great so Im glad we didnt use it.

I really feel for you its miserable for the dogs. You will find something that eases things for him Im sure.
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We have 4 Border Terriers and one of them has issues with her ears and skin. We had her at the vet just after Christmas and she was put on a course of steroids which is due to finish this week. We bought hydrolysed dog food for her on the vets advice. Basically the water breaks the protein into such small pieces that the immune system no longer reacts. The difference in 2 weeks is amazing. We are hoping it continues once she is off the steroids totally.
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Originally Posted by 4fromsuffolk View Post
I did reply to your earlier posts, you might recall we had a Labrador with similar symptoms. We had allergy testing with her at a huge animal facility in Newmarket which we were referred to by our vet. They developed a serum for her. I cant remember the exact costs but we think around 2,000. This was in 2008 ish. We then had to learn to inject this. I think first it was every few days, then weekly then once per month. This was covered under our pet insurance. Unfortunately it didnt get the symptoms under control but we were glad we tried it. The only thing that worked for her was a daily steroid and 2 piriton in am and 2 in pm. We agonised about giving her a daily steroid we were worried about the long term prognosis and spent a good few months fiddling with the dose so she would have the lowest dose possible. We tried one every other day, half a day etc. Anyway this all developed around 18 months old and she lived to nearly 11. We took the view we would prefer her to have a happy shorter life than to be itchy all the time and get infections all the time. The vets did recommend a treatment called atopica which I think does something to the dogs immune system. This was a new drug at the time and would have exceeded our insurance levels quite quickly, we had a young family and not too much spare money so we declined that drug. Subsequent reading about atopica I think the side effects are quite great so Im glad we didnt use it.

I really feel for you its miserable for the dogs. You will find something that eases things for him Im sure.
Thanks for your reply. I can remember you saying you had a dog with issues before. Sadly I cant see me being able to inject Bill with anything. I cant get anywhere near him with drops. I've sat for hours desperately trying. I'm going to register at another vets who are an old school independent one and get some more advice. I had a quote March 2019 for 359 for the ear wash etc this months quote for the same has rocketed to 585 with the only addition of an ear swab that I was charged 70 for last time. The vet said himself its likely to be a mixed fungal growth if any again. He said it wouldn't help too it just feels like money is the driver not poor Bill's condition.
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Originally Posted by Lell View Post
We have 4 Border Terriers and one of them has issues with her ears and skin. We had her at the vet just after Christmas and she was put on a course of steroids which is due to finish this week. We bought hydrolysed dog food for her on the vets advice. Basically the water breaks the protein into such small pieces that the immune system no longer reacts. The difference in 2 weeks is amazing. We are hoping it continues once she is off the steroids totally.
Fingers crossed for you. Bill's been like a different dog on treatment. No chewing biting licking shuffling scratching head shaking all day long poor boy.
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Funny you say that about the vets. We are with what we consider old school family run vets now too, its much better. Weve got a terrier with a delicate tummy and it was a lets try x y and z, if it doesnt work then she would need tests. Our old vets would be straight in with evasive expensive investigations.
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Originally Posted by 4fromsuffolk View Post
Funny you say that about the vets. We are with what we consider old school family run vets now too, its much better. Weve got a terrier with a delicate tummy and it was a lets try x y and z, if it doesnt work then she would need tests. Our old vets would be straight in with evasive expensive investigations.
Most of the vets here are now under one group. It just seems that everything is added on with no discussion. Pre op blood tests were always an optional thing now they always appear on the quote. It would be nice to see the same vet twice as they all differ so much in the advice they give.
Bill seemed fine until the steroid dose dropped from one maybe a half down to a quarter a day.

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We really tried to avoid steroids because of long term use fear, but Im afraid its all that worked for Agathas skin. As soon as the steroids were stopped all the problems came back. She also developed early onset arthritis at 6 (the vets didnt say that was related to steroid use) so was an unlucky dog bless her - we loved her though and she definitely loved us especially my Husband. I would be with her all day but wouldnt get a look in when he came home! I think we were lucky to have her until a month short of her 11th birthday.
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