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Old 11 Aug 19, 04:07 AM  
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How much can I expect to pay for Business Class in August?

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As the title says really - can anyone help with past prices for business class with BA in August (London to Orlando direct)? I have a lot of Avios to use but we need 3 seats and it seems that BA only release 2 Club seats as reward flights during the school holidays for each flight. Iím thinking of doing 2 reward seats and then paying for a third. We are also travelling with a 1yo so the extra space would be a huge bonus!

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Have you seen this?

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Have you seen this?

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This is interesting and of course it depends on why you fly BC, we fly BC 3 or 4 times a year. We choose this for the space and the ability to lie flat and sleep or rest.

I am not interested in the food but will eat if I want to, I don't drink alcohol so that is not a reason.

I like to arrive feeling refreshed and don't like being sandwiched into an economy seat.

We all use our disposable income for what we prefer and I have a four hour rule, any flight over four hours is in a buisness class seat!
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Weíve flown BA club before so I know what Iím getting. Using the Avios means that 2 of the seats will cost me less than economy for August and as long as the third seat isnt too extortionately priced then itíll not work out significantly more expensive than economy overall and we will have the benefit of the extra space for the infant. I just have no idea what to expect to pay for a seat.
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This is interesting and of course it depends on why you fly BC, we fly BC 3 or 4 times a year. We choose this for the space and the ability to lie flat and sleep or rest.

I am not interested in the food but will eat if I want to, I don't drink alcohol so that is not a reason.

I like to arrive feeling refreshed and don't like being sandwiched into an economy seat.

We all use our disposable income for what we prefer and I have a four hour rule, any flight over four hours is in a buisness class seat!
Agree with all of this. Personally Iím a nervous flyer, for some unknown reason the additional space really helps me!
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Also, that survey was from 2018. BA are spending a lot of money revamping their business and first class cabins.
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Hi

As the title says really - can anyone help with past prices for business class with BA in August (London to Orlando direct)? I have a lot of Avios to use but we need 3 seats and it seems that BA only release 2 Club seats as reward flights during the school holidays for each flight. Iím thinking of doing 2 reward seats and then paying for a third. We are also travelling with a 1yo so the extra space would be a huge bonus!

Many thanks!
Itís hard to say how much youíd have to pay. As a general guideline to BA Club World cash fare pricing to MCO, it rarely gets much below around £1400 return, even in sales. A more regular low end price would be in the £1600-1800 range, and it can often be much more.

The lowest prices available currently are around £2,200, and around £2,500 for next July. That can change (both up and down), due to demand and sale periods. The refurbishment of the 777 fleet at LGW has resulted in less CW seats, which may affect pricing. That is speculation, I donít have data to support or refute the idea, but itís a fact that there are less CW seats per flight now.

Part of your challenge would be whether you feel you have to book all 3 seats at the same time, since you need to strike early for the Avios seats, and that may not be the best moment for buying a cash fare. BTW, the two seat thing is not just during school holidays, BA only guarantees two CW Avios seats per flight, though more may be released at any point.

Itís also a little more complicated because you can book the outbound for the Avios seats on the day of release, then add the return later, but you canít do that for the cash fare (at least not without paying very high one-way fares), the earliest you could book a return cash fare is when your return date is opened for sale.

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We paid just over £1400 per person return for LGW to MCO mid August, a price I was more than happy with! I purchased these October 2018, so around 10 months before, and noticed the prices by about 9 months out were more that double that (which at that point I would agree were extremely overpriced) Hope you get a decent price 👍
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Itís hard to say how much youíd have to pay. As a general guideline to BA Club World cash fare pricing to MCO, it rarely gets much below around £1400 return, even in sales. A more regular low end price would be in the £1600-1800 range, and it can often be much more.

The lowest prices available currently are around £2,200, and around £2,500 for next July. That can change (both up and down), due to demand and sale periods. The refurbishment of the 777 fleet at LGW has resulted in less CW seats, which may affect pricing. That is speculation, I donít have data to support or refute the idea, but itís a fact that there are less CW seats per flight now.

Part of your challenge would be whether you feel you have to book all 3 seats at the same time, since you need to strike early for the Avios seats, and that may not be the best moment for buying a cash fare. BTW, the two seat thing is not just during school holidays, BA only guarantees two CW Avios seats per flight, though more may be released at any point.

Itís also a little more complicated because you can book the outbound for the Avios seats on the day of release, then add the return later, but you canít do that for the cash fare (at least not without paying very high one-way fares), the earliest you could book a return cash fare is when your return date is opened for sale.
Thanks so much! Anything between £1400 and £2000 would be doable! Iím not going to book the cash fare at the same time as the reward seats. Did some dummy bookings for July next year and saw the prices for immediate availability. Plan is to book the outward journey as soon as theyíre released and then add on the return once they are available. Iíll probably be sad and call the US BA number to book at midnight as our return is right before the schools go back. Then wait for a sale to book the cash fare.

One thing Iím not sure about though... our 3 seats are for 2 adults and a child (age 5 when we travel). Is it possible to do the child seat as the cash booking? I know you canít book a child fare on its own online but wondering if we could add it to our reward booking over the phone at a later date when the price is right? Would mean a slightly cheaper cash booking IYSWIM. This Reward flight stuff is complicated!
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Also, that survey was from 2018. BA are spending a lot of money revamping their business and first class cabins.
Well, not really in terms of the hard product (the seat and physical cabin environment). The new CW seat has of course just been launched, but the rollout will take a long time, especially for routes like MCO.

There have been no other changes at all to the seat in First or CW, apart from IFE upgrades when the the aircraft has received this in all cabins. There have been some improvements to the ďsoft productĒ (e.g bedding, catering) in both cabins over the last year or so, but itís catch-up.

Thatís not to say that you canít have a good premium cabin flight with BA, and itís going to beat economy hands down (leaving aside the personal nature of value for money), and the Ryanair comparison in the article linked above is over-dramatic, but realistically itís at the low-mid end of business and first class products out there. The new CW seat, once rolled out, should bring it up to par.
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